WATCH: Obama Talks Candidly About How He Changed His Mind on Same-Sex Marriage
‘Not Simply About Legal Rights but About a Sense of Stigma’
President Barack Obama credits his own children and people he loves who are in same-sex relationships as the ones who changed his mind on marriage equality. The 54-year old Democrat was speaking on Saturday at a London town hall with young UK leaders and was asked which social movement campaigns have influenced him the most.
The President told his audience that “in the United States what’s been remarkable is the rapidity with which the marriage equality movement changed the political landscape and hearts and minds, and resulted in actual changes in law. It’s probably been the fastest set of changes in terms of a social movement that I’ve seen.”
He said that on LGBT rights in general, “I didn’t need a lot of pressure. I came in working on ending a policy called ‘don’t ask, don’t tell,’ that was preventing LGBT citizens from serving in our military openly. We did that very systematically. Policies in terms of those who had HIV-AIDS being able to emigrate to our country, hospital visitations — there were a whole host of things that we were already doing.”
The President acknowledged that he had initially supported civil unions, which are not equal to full marriage equality.
“But on marriage equality, I was in favor of what’s called civil unions,” he continued. “My notion was initially that labeling those partnerships as marriage wasn’t necessary as long as people were getting the same rights, and it would disentangle them from some of the religious connotations that marriage had in the minds of a lot of Americans.” Â
In 2012, Vice President Joe Biden in a “Meet the Press” interview surprised many across the nation when he announced he supported the right of same-sex couples to marry, forcing President Obama to admit he had too, and for some time.
“I have to confess my children generally had an impact on me. People I loved who were in monogamous same-sex relationships explained to me what I should have understood earlier, which is it was not simply about legal rights but about a sense of stigma, that if you’re calling it something different it means that somehow it means less in the eyes of society.”
While he did not mention anyone in particular, among those who may have helped change his mind are his former Associate Counsel, Alison Nathan, pictured above with her partner, Meg Satterthwaite, and their twin sons, Oliver and Nathan, in 2010.
“I believe that the manner in which the LGBT community described marriage equality as not some radical thing, but actually reached out to people who said they care about family values, and said, if you care about everything that families provide — stability and commitment and partnership — then this is actually a pretty conservative position to take, that you should be in favor of it. I thought there was a lot of smarts in reaching out and building and framing the issue in a way that could bring in people who initially didn’t agree with them.”
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Image:Â Official White House Photo by Pete Souza via Flickr
Hat tip: Towleroad and Huffington Post
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