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Fischer Defends Abducting Kids From Gay Parents: ‘We Must Obey God Rather Than Man’

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Bryan Fischer is defending comments he made over the past 24 hours, adding that God’s Law, not man’s law, is to be followed, and repeating that children should be abducted from gay parents. Fischer via Twitter last night stated he believes it’s his duty to Christ to steal the children of gay people and same-sex couplesand send them on an “Underground Railroad,” noting that “we need an Underground Railroad to deliver innocent children from same-sex households.”

“We must obey God’s law, not man’s law,” Fischer said today at the end of the video, below.

As an example, Fischer abuses the story of “ex-gay” Lisa Miller, a woman in a same-sex relationship who became a biological mother and after the couple split, ignored multiple court orders and ultimately stole the child and fled the country with her.

But the issue at hand here is that Bryan Fischer, and as The New Civil Rights Movement wrote earlier today, the American Family Association, are now on record advocating for the commission of a crime, namely, that some person or persons unnamed, should actively steal and/or kidnap children from any gay person or same-sex couple raising that child or children, merely because the parents are in a same-sex relationship, or because one or both parents is/are gay.

Is advocating a crime a crime? Or merely free speech? Will the kidnapping of innocent children being raised in loving and stable homes headed by same-sex parents or one LGBT parent become a First Amendment issue? Will the state interfering with the pre-meditated theft of innocent children be seen as “prohibiting the free exercise” of religion, and just because the religious right claim it to be their First Amendment right — and duty?

Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.

Comments like these are not benign. They are calls to action, heeded by the least-willed among society, the emotionally and mentally disturbed, and those most-susceptible to the ravings of a lunatic.

HRC today noted:

LGBT families are not a new phenomenon. There are over 650,000 same-sex couples raising nearly 250,000 childen, according to the 2010 U.S. Census data.

Fischer’s call for kidnapping children from same-sex partners is not only offensive, but a harmful mischaracterization of families that struggle daily to provide loving and safe home environments despite significant legal, financial and dignitary inequality.

Meanwhile, back to the non-reality based world of Bryan Fischer, who claims Lisa Miller’s lesbian partner sexually abused the couple’s little girl, and yet the court chose to give the non-biological mother custody of the child.

As usual, facts are not Fischer’s friends.

Law professor Nancy Polikoff, author of Beyond (Straight and Gay) Marriage: Valuing All Families under the Law, writes that “in the Miller-Jenkins case there is no factual dispute. We aren’t dealing with a judge whose assessment of the evidence might be skewed by a resolute unwillingness to believe such things as sexual assault happen between a father and child.”

We’re dealing with a judge who made a reasonable visitation order for a noncustodial parent which was flaunted by the custodial parent only because she did not want her child around a lesbian.  Lisa Miller clearly believes she made a mistake forming a family with Janet Jenkins, but lots of mothers regret the partners they had children with.  That history cannot be rewritten, however.  Noncustodial parents gets visitation rights, even when there is profound religious disagreement between them — something that is not at all uncommon as any student of family law knows.  Lisa and the evangelicals supporting her don’t believe Janet is a parent, but parentage is determined as a legal matter.  And the court got it right when it ruled that the couple’s joint decision to have a child through donor insemination, and all the other factors, made them both parents.

It’s really that legal ruling that Lisa and her supporters disagree with.  And for that I cut them no slack. “Biblical truths” (themselves, of course, open to interpretation as the religious leaders who support lesbian and gay families have demonstrated) don’t determine legal parentage.  And we would have a very different country if no parent who lived contrary to “biblical truths,” as determined by evangelical Christians, could visit with his or her child.

As usual, facts are not Fischer’s friends.

Calling Fischer’s stance “anarchy,” Zack Ford at Think Progress also classifies as “lies,” Fischer’s comments “that Jenkins was sexually abusing Isabella and that she had ‘no legal relationship’ with her daughter.”

Worse than simply being wrong on the facts, Fischer is arguing for complete anarchy. Judges granting custody to legally recognized guardians is the courts acting in the best interest of children. To call that “judicial kidnapping” is to suggest that the entire legal system be disregarded when it recognizes same-sex relationships. Fischer is essentially encouraging conservative Christians to become anti-gay vigilantes, kidnapping the children of same-sex couples to enforce their own perverted sense of justice outside the legal system.

 

https://youtube.com/watch?v=5E1jBcVp0BE%3Fversion%3D3%26hl%3Den_US

The New York Times, in an extensive story, adds:

The New York Times has assembled the most complete picture yet of their getaway and subsequent life.

The archive of Polikoff’s writings on the Lisa Miller story are here.

Video courtesy of Right Wing Watch.

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All Gays Pose “Heightened Security Risk” To America Says AFA’s Fischer

Fischer: Absolutely No Reason Why Homosexuality Cannot Be Criminalized

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Platner Scorched Over ‘Taking Time’ Video After New Accusation

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Maine Democratic U.S. Senate nominee Graham Platner is under fire after releasing a video declaring that new allegations against him are false, yet he is “taking time to reflect” on a path forward.

Politico on Monday afternoon reported that a woman who dated Platner, Jenny Racicot, “says he forced her to have sex with him nearly five years ago despite her repeated objections, an allegation Platner denies.”

“Racicot said she had an on-and-off relationship with Platner,” Politico reported, “for more than two years before he entered her rural Maine home uninvited one night in late 2021, deeply intoxicated, and forced himself on her while she repeatedly told him to stop. She said she cut off contact with him after telling him the encounter was not consensual.”

In a video posted to social media eleven minutes after the Politico story dropped, Platner says, “I wanted to directly address the troubling, serious, and false allegations against me. Any accusation of nonconsensual behavior is categorically false.”

He said he and his supporters “were united in a love of Maine, a belief that our politics must change, in a focus on defeating Susan Collins.”

“So, regardless of the inaccuracy of the reporting, but mindful the political reality will inflict, we are taking the time to reflect on the best path forward for the state that I love, the people that I love, the movement I belong to, and the goal of defeating Susan Collins.”

“Those were the goals when we launched this campaign. And they remain my goals today.”

“Throughout it all, you never turned your back on me. And I will not turn my back on you now. Every one of you deserves to see that vision come to fruition and see Susan Collins defeated. And we will use every tool at our disposal to do so.”

The Bulwark’s Tim Miller, a political commentator who served as the communications director for the Jeb Bush 2016 presidential campaign, blasted Platner.

“I’m sorry but ‘we are taking time to reflect on the best path forward’ is not an option on the table,” Miller wrote. “Either it’s false and you campaign with vigor or it’s true and you get out / apologize to everyone you let down.”

Journalist Ryan Grim, commenting on Platner’s video, noted that Platner “strongly suggests he is considering dropping out. Already Troy Jackson and Chellie Pingree, both gubernatorial candidates, are being kicked around in Maine circles as potential replacements.”

Several others, including Puck News’ Peter Hamby, predicted Platner will be dropping out.

Platner had postponed several campaign events before the Politico story was published.

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Trump Sparks Fury Online After Posting Unblurred Video of Muslim Kindergartners in Hijabs

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President Donald Trump is facing backlash after posting a video of children — including showing their unblurred faces — graduating from kindergarten, with some of the girls purportedly wearing hijabs.

“President Trump posted a captionless video of graduating kindergarteners on Truth Social on Monday, goading his supporters into verbally attacking little children simply for being Muslim,” The New Republic reported. “The clip is from Gateway STEM Academy, a majority-Black K-8 public charter school in St. Paul, Minnesota. It shows about 21 children in caps and gowns on stage singing a song together. Most of the girls are wearing hijabs.”

The original post of the video which Trump reposted reads: “Public school in St. Paul, Minnesota. Every girl is in a hijab … in kindergarten.”

Trump did not add any comments. TNR called the post “Islamophobic, weird, and creepy,” while noting that the comments section of Trump’s post was filled with calls “by racist, xenophobic MAGA supporters” to “deport the children and ban hijabs.”

TNR also noted that it “should come as no surprise that Trump isn’t above attacking children who just learned how to read, but this post is still particularly discomforting—and will certainly contribute to the already potent level of anti-Muslim sentiment in the U.S. and in Minnesota.”

Critics blasted Trump.

“There is something deeply unsettling about the president of the United States—the most powerful person in the world—going after kindergarten schoolchildren in Minnesota because they wore hijabs, as Trump has done this morning on his website,” The Bulwark’s Sam Stein wrote.

One social media commentator wrote, “Trump posted an unblurred video of more than a dozen Muslim kindergartners to Truth Social, exposing the children’s faces while targeting them for their religion.”

Another added, “Trump is a bigot. The president took to Truth Social to attack kindergarteners in hijabs. These are little kids. The president isn’t just a bigot, he’s also a coward.”

The original video was posted to the X social media platform in June.

U.S. Rep. Nancy Mace (R-SC) at the time commented, “If you are in a public school in America, you should be speaking english.”

 

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One Legal Maneuver Threatens to Undo Everything E. Jean Carroll Won

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President Donald Trump’s apparent efforts to delay releasing the $5.8 million civil judgment to E. Jean Carroll are being met with a warning by the journalist’s legal team, who suggest there could be a legal maneuver for Trump to employ to forgo paying the judgment in either of the two cases he lost.

According to The Guardian, on July 4, U.S. District Judge Lewis Kaplan ordered Trump to release the $5.8 million judgment, which is in escrow, to Carroll by this coming Tuesday — or explain why he would not do so.

Carroll’s attorneys think Trump may be trying to buy time to mount another legal strategy, telling the judge that Trump’s request for an extension “appears to be little more than yet another play for time.”

“The case is separate from Trump’s appeal of a Manhattan civil jury’s 2024 award of $83.3m to Carroll for defamation,” The Guardian explains. “But her lawyers have suggested a legal scenario in which the president might seek to conjoin the cases and further delay payment of both.”

Carroll’s attorney Roberta Kaplan (no relation to the judge) wrote, “We can only assume that defendant is seeking … to buy time so he can try to concoct some new basis to put off paying plaintiff presumably in connection with his forthcoming petition and motion for a rehearing.”

Trump’s former attorney, Justin Smith, in one of his final acts, wrote to the Supreme Court suggesting that his client would be appealing the $83.3 million civil judgment.

Smith argued that the Supreme Court “may wish to consider the petitions together,” given they involve the same parties.

The larger judgment case involves possible questions of presidential immunity, and that has Carroll’s attorneys concerned.

“A conjoined case, Carroll’s lawyers fear, could result in both judgments being wiped out,” The Guardian reports.

The president has also made clear he is no fan of Judge Kaplan, after the jurist made several rulings that “angered” Trump.

“What else can you expect from a Trump Hating, Clinton appointed judge, who went out of his way to make sure that the result was as negative as it could possible be,” Trump wrote on Truth Social in 2023, “speaking to, and in control of, a jury from an anti-Trump area which is probably the worst place in the US for me to get a fair ‘trial’.”

 

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