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What’s The Real Reason The Catholic Church Wants To Keep Gays Oppressed?

by Scott Rose on January 21, 2012

in Discrimination,Hate Groups,News,Politics,Religion,Scott Rose

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The Catholic Church is the world’s single largest anti-gay hate group. If we are to minimize its pernicious influence, we must educate societies about the Church’s financial motivations for keeping gay human beings oppressed.

The Church’s business model depends on the cheap labor of priests and nuns, without whom the bullying theocrats at the top of the Church hierarchy would not be able to continue living their lavish and decadent lifestyle.

How does the Church intimidate gay people into signing up for lifetimes of poverty, hard work and (ostensibly) celibacy? By socially stigmatizing gay human beings and driving young gay people to despair about their chances for satisfying adult domestic lives, the Church as good as tortures young gay people into signing up to be priests and nuns. The fall-off in the number of young people signing up for lifetimes slaving for the Church corresponds almost precisely to the gradually increasing social acceptance of gay human beings. The Church knows that and — at the expense of gay people’s basic human rights — is lashing out in attempts to protect its business interests and historical business plan.

The Pope recently announced that marriage equality is a threat to the future of humanity. For that, he deserves to hear long, loud Bronx cheers. That bit of preposterous anti-gay hate speech is duplicitous, just another cover for trying to turn back social progress so the Church can torment young gay people into entering the priesthood.

We must not ignore, furthermore, that the Church also is misogynist. Nuns get hidden away doing the worst of the dirty work and are never seen wearing fancy garments and drinking fine wines out of golden chalices. Additionally, the Church opposes allowing gay parent adoptions, because such adoptions lead to increased acceptance of gay human beings, which works against the Church’s business plan.

Catholic dogma on human sexuality is flat-out unscientific and wrong. For Church leaders to defame gay people by calling homosexuality an “intrinsic moral evil” — and other such defamatory, non-fact-based phrases — is as disgraceful as was the Vatican’s signing of the Reichskonkordat political treaty with Adolph Hitler. Remember; in the present-day world, we are witness to Christian-majority countries that propose establishing the death penalty for all known homosexuals.

The Church notoriously placed Galileo under house arrest because he taught that the earth revolved around the sun, instead of vice-versa. Gay Americans today must refuse to allow the Catholic Church to put us under national house arrest in a system of sexual orientation apartheid, in the name of anti-gay Church dogma and for the purpose of enriching the Church.

Archbishop Timothy Dolan — soon to be Cardinal Dolan — recently sent a threatening letter to President Obama, telling him that if he continued to undo sexual orientation apartheid, he would “precipitate a national conflict between church and state of enormous proportions.” If you are disturbed by an Archbishop threatening a U.S. president over gay rights, you can sign this petition asking President Obama to repudiate the Catholic Church’s anti-gay politicking.

Not only is the Church wrong to poison minds against gay people, it is doing so at least in part to distract from its crimes of child rape and child rape cover ups. In August, 2011, a priest in the Bronx allegedly sexually assaulted, repeatedly, a 16-year-old girl working in the rectory. After arrest, the priest told prosecutors that the girl was “wearing short skirts.” Would you not think that an organization with a monstrous child rape history would instruct its employees never to blame the victim that way?

Archbishop Dolan on his official Church blog subsequently posted – “with gratitude” – a press release from the Catholic League attacking the 16-year-old girl’s integrity and calling the Survivors Network of Those Abused by Priests (SNAP) a “phony victims’ group.” Dolan’s blog post could serve as a text book case of how an institution can intimidate victims out of coming forward or bearing witness to child rape crimes. As with its gay-bashing, the Catholic Church bashes Church child rape victims out of financial motivations; intimidate as many victims as possible out of coming forward, in order to avoid having to compensate them.

For a video of Ratzinger getting pissy with and slapping away a reporter who was trying to ask him why a priest was being shielded from prosecution, go here.

Do not forget to sign this petition.

The greedy gay-bashing monsters of the Catholic Church are mounting a war against gay people; gay people – and those that support their rights — must fight back against this evil cult.

New York City– based novelist and freelance writer Scott Rose’s LGBT– interest by– line has appeared on Advocate .com, PoliticusUSA .com, The New York Blade, Queerty .com, Girlfriends and in numerous additional venues. Among his other interests are the arts, boating and yachting, wine and food, travel, poker and dogs. His “Mr. David Cooper’s Happy Suicide” is about a New York City advertising executive assigned to a condom account.

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ss_mc January 21, 2012 at 2:21 pm

WOW as a gay Catholic I am totally offended with your stupidity. Half of your information is totally inaccurate.

mercury613 January 21, 2012 at 2:38 pm

"Half of your information is totally inaccurate."

Such as?

David Badash January 21, 2012 at 8:18 pm

"Half of your information is totally inaccurate."
First of all, you're wrong. Second of all, even if you were right, that means that half IS correct.
Which half is correct, which half is not?…
(Hint: It's all correct.)

Twin_Skies January 22, 2012 at 12:12 am

I agree – claiming that the Church is bashing gays so it can recruit them as priests is a preposterous conjecture – too roundabout a way for them to gather followers.

To paraphrase Alfred, the RCC just wants to watch the world burn.

Scott_Rose January 22, 2012 at 1:08 pm

Preposterous? Really? I would say, rather, that perpetuating the ignorance-fueled bigotry against gay human beings is what is preposterous. And to deny that the Church scores an economic benefit by stigmatizing and torturing young gay people and thus forcing them into signing on as priests and nuns flies in the face of the direct evidence. You need to go study history a little more thoroughly. You need to look at how gay prisoners of Nazi concentration camps were at the end of the war transferred to German jails . . without trials . . simply because they were gay . . . and then you need to look at how sometimes the Church would strike deals with the German government to get a gay victim out of jail, on the condition that the gay victim agreed to sign up to be a Catholic priest. The Church did not negotiate for the freedom of those gay prisoners; it negotiated to have them as slave laborers.

Twin_Skies January 23, 2012 at 9:23 am

My apologies, I was trying to be sarcastic.

I was saying that instead of looking at the Church's attempts to bash the gay community as a means of pressuring them into joining it ranks, I think that they're just bullying gays for the heck of it.

mercury613 January 21, 2012 at 2:40 pm

As someone who fortunately managed to escape the clutches of the Catholic church with my sanity and self-esteem intact, I say "BRAVO!". This article is spot on.

Alex Haiken January 21, 2012 at 3:11 pm

The scary teaser always seems to be: “Same-sex marriage threatens the rights of those who oppose it.” Actually, any legal protection from discrimination more than “threatens” discriminators — it outlaws their “right” to discriminate! Though protections for churches and clergy are written into the same-sex marriage laws, some still worry that Christians may not be “comfortable” offering services to same-sex couples. Well, are they comfortable offering services to non-Christians, the divorced and remarried, mixed-race couples? Are they comfortable when loving their “enemies” as they love themselves?

It’s been said that gay couples will take offense if they are not offered the same services traditional couples receive. Well, if the haves take offense when the have-nots get to have, why wouldn’t the have-nots take offense over the haves’ continuing selfishness?

Perhaps this is something we need to think about too.

-Alex Haiken

Qwerty50 January 21, 2012 at 5:10 pm

I was very close to studying for the ministry (the protestant version of the priesthood) when I was a teenager. I felt called by god because I was different than the other boys I knew. Turns out I was just gay but didn't know it yet. Thank goodness my life went in a different direction! By my own experience, I think the gist of this article is correct – the ongoing religious stigma against homosexuality can indeed push a child toward a religious vocation.

Rayosun2 January 21, 2012 at 6:01 pm

Scott Rose may be right, but as recovering Catholic and former priest, I don't think so. I urge any who read this article to compare it to the insights I offer at http://CatholicArrogance.Org/Churchvsex.html which I believe provides a much more insightful explanation of precisely why the R.C. church has problems not only with homosexuality but with just about EVERYTHING that has to do with s e x !

GeorgeM111 January 21, 2012 at 7:22 pm

I think the notion that the RC hates gays to maintain its celibate (hahahahaha) priesthood and nuns is undoubtedly part of the picture of their abject bigotry–but I think there is more (as suggested above). I mean, god knows (heh I'm a devout agnostic, so that's a bit of a joke)–there are PLENTY of religions of all kinds without celibate slaves to maintain the upper echelons in the luxury to which they are accustomed who have no end of hatred for us queers. So I suppose it is a matter of how much this aspect (willing slaves of Jesus) is relevant to RC hatred. Clearly, another big piece is the whole "methinks the lady doth protest too much" aspect of priests and prelates and bishops squealing about gays while fucking children (or just other adults of the same gender…)

In any case, religion is pernicious nonsense in my view, period. But the power of these vile hypocrites does absolutely need to be challenged, even as the semenaries empty out of people suckered into the paternal and seductive nonsense of ersatz chastity in favor of a secular life that remains true to a genuine acceptance and celebration of same gender attraction.

LatinCatholic January 22, 2012 at 10:10 am

Are we to assume that all Religious sisters, brothers and priests are gay, just because many of them have been? Mr. Rose doesn't make sense. That's generalizing to create an argument that doesn't even have to exist. "Fancy garments"? "Drinking fine wines from golden chalices"? What in the world is he talking about? That's right up there with 'I wish they'd stop building those huge cathedrals and do something useful like feed the poor' or 'Pope Benedict XVI is a Nazi.' Here's another inconsistency: Assuming that a woman who chooses to serve God in this way is powerless and locked away against her will because she is too ill informed to know to resists or too weak to do so. Do people who make such ignorant arguments even realize the influence of a sister in the community? I wonder how many of them have taken as much philosophy as these sisters.

LatinCatholic January 22, 2012 at 10:10 am

Let's not forget that since the priesthood is a 'service' position and not a 'power' position, a Mother Superior has the right to fire the priest serving her convent and request a replacement if she feels he's not serving her sisters well. (so much for powerless female Religious) If sisters are locked away and sheepish then why are they often educators, advocates for the poor and needy and even counselors and even R.N.s and M.D.s? Sure, some sisters are cloistered, but that is not done to them without their consent. To leave the world to be a nun or a monk seems not much different from a priest knowing ahead of time that he may not marry. Truly, I grow weary of these misinformed ways of thinking.

Scott_Rose January 22, 2012 at 7:00 pm

Nothing you have said negates that the Catholic Church is misogynist and paternalistic. A male was excommunicated for saying that women should be ordained yet no Church employee has ever been excommunicated for child rape. That tells clear-sighted people everything they need to know about the male-dominated Catholic Church's determination to keep its women under their thumbs. It's separate and very unequal, exactly as I state the case. Then — also as I assert — a grossly disproportionate number of the men and women that "know ahead of time that they won't be permitted to marry" are GAY, do you understand the point that they are GAY and that the evil Catholic Church has poisoned society against them, gotten them to loath themselves within themselves and thus gotten them to sign up for lifetimes of servitude to the Church. There's a huge difference between a "service" position and servitude. In stating that the priesthood is a "service" position, not a "power" position, you have strengthened not weakened my argument. I specifically stated that the bullying theocrats at the top of the Church hierarchy live high off the sweat and tears of the servile priests and nuns. Those priests and nuns historically have come very disproportionately from gay and lesbian population segments. As social acceptance of gays and lesbians has gradually increased, the number of young people signing up to be priests and nuns has gradually decreased. That is no mere coincidence. And because the Church sees plainly that its traditional business model is threatened, it grows ever shriller and more virulent in its public attacks against gay human beings.

LatinCatholic January 23, 2012 at 4:13 pm

<. . . and then you need to look at how sometimes the Church would strike deals with the German government to get a gay victim out of jail, on the condition that the gay victim agreed to sign up to be a Catholic priest. The Church did not negotiate for the freedom of those gay prisoners; it negotiated to have them as slave laborers.> What in the world are you talking about Mr. Rose? What evidence do you have that can verify that laughable claim? You're obviously not a serious writer. If you are, you're so full of hate that I can't begin to take you seriously. Do you just make this stuff up as you go along?

LatinCatholic January 22, 2012 at 10:10 am

Gay people need to get over themselves. They keep harping on how 'normal' they are. Well, I'm sorry, but being Gay is not normal. 'normal' is a mathematical term and 10 percent is simply NOT the norm. They should accept it and go on, and stop trying to convince society at large that being Gay is normal, because it isn't.

The 'Don't Tread On My Orgasm' crowd in the Gay community (what ever the Gay community really is) should get a real-life grip on the legion of problems that we all have to pull together and solve like paying our bills, having decent employment, sound medical care, solving our deficit problems, et al. Those issues are so much more important than 'Gay Rights' The problem is that the sex obsessed Gay/Lesbian community can't see past their own penises and vaginas long enough to grasp that.

David Badash January 22, 2012 at 2:52 pm

So, Asians, Blacks, left-handed people, blondes, blue-eyed people, and geniuses are not normal either.
Will you please share with us your thoughts on them too?
Do you have an issue with "Don't Tread On My Orgasm" Mensa members too?
Your "logic" eludes me.
And for the record, the LGBT community is not "sex-obsessed." But our detractors certainly claim to know far more than the average person does about same-sex sex, and I always wonder, why is that?
Most homosexuals neither are obsessed with, nor care to know about the behind-bedroom-doors lives of heterosexuals, yet heterosexual who oppose homosexuals seem oddly fascinated.

mercury613 January 22, 2012 at 11:18 pm

The person who believes in a religion based on a virgin birth is calling other people sex obsessed?


Huntercgo January 24, 2012 at 4:34 pm

Sorry, but "normal" is a psychological term and denotes a range, not a point. (And as I think about it, math has means and averages, but not norms.) "Normal" in psychology includes a group of behaviors and orientations that occur with a certain degree of statistical frequency and are not the result of trauma or pathologies.

Gay is just as normal as straight.

jmxm January 22, 2012 at 12:47 pm

any credibility this article may have had – which was scant to begin with, given its lack of evidence – was totally washed away by its biased tone.

pardon the expression, but preaching to the converted does little to help the cause.

Scott_Rose February 26, 2012 at 8:58 pm

The Catholic Church is the world's single largest anti-gay hate group. How would you expect a gay-interest publication to report on that hate group without "bias"? You maybe thought we would accept to debate whether we are fully human, or whether we should have to beg to grovel for rights from the "infallible" Pope, who is so infallible he joined the Hitler Youth? Are you kidding?

marcfelion January 23, 2012 at 3:31 am

Nice article Scott. You a right on about the gays and lesbians who have filled the church since way back when.

I’m fascinated by the correlation between the concept of primogeniture, where the eldest male in the family, to the exclusion of other siblings, inherits the the estate of the parents and the biological fact that younger siblings are more likely to be gay than the oldest kid.

So what happens to the younger kids in the family who were more likely to be gay or lesbian? Either they survived on their big brother’s graces, they got a trade, which was often controlled by guilds, or as was very common, they joined the church. What other options did they really have? Leading a single life was practically unheard of.

When you talk of the churches of the past it’s not quite the same as it today- there was monasteries filled with men, cloistered nun, sisters who went out in the community- thriving same sex communities all over Europe of people, who more often that not, had no other option but to join the church.

MarkVA71 November 7, 2012 at 4:24 pm

All religions are false. Only Christ offers us salvation.

Norwegian2013 September 6, 2013 at 9:31 am

Whatever truths are in this screed, it's hard to take seriously when the authors throw around lines like "fine wines in golden chalices." Does he seriously think Chateau Petrus is "served" at Mass?

mercury613 January 22, 2012 at 12:17 pm

Calling people "objectively disordered" for simply being human is not treating them with respect and compassion — it's dehumanizing.

Scott_Rose January 22, 2012 at 1:14 pm

The oppressor does not have any right to define whether the oppressed is actually being oppressed. The language you have cited does not in any way mitigate the Catholic Church's ignorance-and-spite-fueled gay bashing. Homosexual orientation is not a "tendency" or an "inclination." Anybody genuinely interested in "respect, compassion and sensitivity" towards gay human beings would take the scientific view of the American Medical Association (and every other major professional medical association) and not that of the filthy dogma-based gay bashing Catholic Church view. The phony duplicitous double-talk of "respect, compassion and sensitivity" is a cover for the attempts at the kind of victimization of gay human beings that I accurately describe in my article. Some of the Catholic Church's gay victims suffer internalized sexual stigma and need to be freed from it — they need to be liberated — like any abuse victim — to be made to understand that what the abuser is inflicting on them is in no way "love," no matter how many times the abuser might allege that the abuse is love.

mercury613 January 22, 2012 at 1:42 pm

Beautifully put.

LatinCatholic January 23, 2012 at 3:49 pm

"filthy dogma-based gay bashing Catholic Church view." Really now Mr. Rose, perhaps you're getting a little excessively emotional here. Do you even know the definition of the word Dogma? Is Dogma a dirty word for you? Maybe you should stop drinking so much coffee. Calm down man, calm down. Easy now.

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