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Dear Christians: You Are Not Being Oppressed.

by Benjamin Phillips on November 13, 2011

in Benjamin Phillips,Bigotry Watch,News,Politics,Religion

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One of the great things about the It Gets Better campaign, apart from the fact that it is an immensely valuable and unquestionably brilliant idea, is that it made anti-gay bullying a national issue. The premise is simple. Tell your story of survival. Send that message. Things suck now, but they won’t forever. Genius. Stories flooded in, the message proved to be even more powerful than probably anyone expected, and the living hell that passes for the lives of many LGBT youth got some long overdue attention. I expect that straight people hadn’t thought much about what it was like to grow up gay until that point. A large chunk of them probably had never even considered the existence of gay youth.

Organizations like the Family Research Council and the National Organization for Marriage, not to mention most of organized religion, have been fairly successful in painting LGBT people as mustache twirling villains. Once people started seeing countless pictures of fresh-faced young people hounded to the breaking point, turning to suicide rather than endure the daily tortures their lives had become at the hands of their hate-fueled abusers, only the most hard-hearted ideologues on the planet could fail to empathize.

All of a sudden, people cared about bullying. Anti-Bullying programs, bills, and countless other efforts began to rise in prominence. Bullies were on notice: You are being watched. This put Republicans in a tight spot. It is impossible to come out in favor of beating up children, but they must also hate homosexuality. They have no choice. When it comes to gay people, the Republican base will tolerate nothing but complete intolerance from its elected officials.

Here’s a fun trivia question:

Q: What do you call a Republican who supports gay rights?
A: A Democrat.

The problem they faced was simple. How do you denounce a bully for behaving in exactly the same way you behave? In the modern conservative playbook, anything a like-minded comrade does is automatically righteous, and anyone they do it to must have had it coming. No empathy for their enemies, regardless of age, is to be permitted.

Given this, the right was faced with one of two possible avenues for spin; either figure out a way to blame LGBT youth for their victimization, or figure out how to paint the bullies as even bigger victims. Oh sure, they could try to ignore the issue, or claim that the bullying epidemic has been blown out of proportion, but that only works for so long. It’s pretty hard to ignore a thirteen-year old with a busted eye.

Finding a good media strategy became of paramount importance. Luckily, this is the only thing the modern Republican Party is good at.

First we had a few attempts to re-frame the issue. This sort of thing is usually left to the fringes of the conservative movement, as it is almost impossible to pull off without looking like an asshole. Here is a classic example of this tactic from Tea Party Nation activist and Radio host Rich Swier.

This is not bullying. It is peer pressure and is healthy. There are many bad behaviors such as smoking, under age drinking and drug abuse that are behaviors that cannot be condoned. Homosexuality falls into this category. Homosexuality is simply bad behavior that youth see as such and rightly pressure their peers to stop it. In Sarasota County over 70% of all HIV/AIDS cases are due to male sex with males.
I agree with Gulf Coast Gives that “LGBT youth are up to five times more likely to attempt suicide than their straight counterparts”. Homosexuality, like drugs, harms young people if they experement [sic] with it. That is the greatest tragedy.


Needless to say, this caused a little controversy. This was to be expected, as that sort of concentrated hate is designed for consumption by only the most hearty and ravenous of right wing sociopaths.


It’s not like if gay people disappeared from the planet, NOM could get back to selling sandwiches. Trying to screw over gay people is their primary activity.


For everyone else, a more subtle tactic would be needed. This brings me to Rick Santorum. Rick is apparently the last person on earth unaware that Saturday Night Live is a comedy program, so when he found himself the target of a little standard issue satire, he reacted poorly. From The Hill:

“We’ve been hammered by the left for my standing up for the traditional family and I will continue to do so,” Santorum said. “The left, unfortunately, participates in bullying more than the right does. They say that they’re tolerant, and they’re anything but tolerant of people who disagree with them and support traditional values.”

If the Gay community is Batman, then Rick Santorum would be its Joker. Actually, let’s not go crazy here. Rick Sanatorium is really more of a second or third tier nemesis, like Scarecrow, or maybe Clayface. He is an annoyance, but no real threat, especially after his epic neutering at the hands of Dan Savage. His comments however, while asinine and horrible politics for him personally, represent exactly the tactic the right finally settled on.

We have this, from the National Organization for Marriage:

Some homosexual activists will continue to smear conservatives as “bigots” in order to bully them out of the debate and even out of their jobs.

And there we have it.

Let’s be clear. The concept here is that we in the gay community are bullies for calling anti-gay activists bigots, even though the only reason for their existence is to launch prejudicial, hate based, completely unprovoked attacks on our community. It’s not like if gay people disappeared from the planet, NOM could get back to selling sandwiches. Trying to screw over gay people is their primary activity. If that’s not bigoted, I don’t know what is.

NOM got this quote from a guy named Frank Turek and his article, Who Are the Real Gay Bigots and Bullies. This article is so absurd, and contains such wildly specious logic, that I could honestly spend three times its length debunking it. I will refrain, as it would require reading it a second time, and I can only throw up so much in one day without becoming dehydrated.


You know who doesn’t need a book called It Gets Better? Straight Christians. For them, it really doesn’t get much better.


Turek crystallizes the Meme. His thesis is that defending yourself from anti-gay attacks amounts to anti-christian bigotry. The idea is that as their hatred of gay people is based on their Christianity, any actions they take as a result of that hatred amounts to anti-Christian bullying. I suppose we are also responsible for damages should the person punching us in the face hurt their hand. My pity for the bully’s cuticles knows no bounds.

Shockingly, this is catching on. Last week, the Michigan state senate tried to pass a bill aimed enshrining this nastiness into law. From an excellent article by Amy Sulivan:

On Wednesday, the Republican-controlled state senate passed an anti-bullying bill that manages to protect school bullies instead of those they victimize. It accomplishes this impressive feat by allowing students, teachers, and other school employees to claim that “a sincerely held religious belief or moral conviction” justifies their harassment.

See how that works? A handful of grown up anti-gay bullies invent a half-assed defense of younger anti-gay bullies. Next thing you know, some GOP legislature is trying to get it passed into law. To be fair, Michigan Democrats in the House were able to smooth the language out a little. I bet Senate Republicans were upset about that. They appear to have cheered themselves up by passing a bill requiring students to recite the Pledge of Allegiance. Because, you know, Jobs for Michigan.

I find this all very frustrating.

You know who doesn’t need a book called It Gets Better? Straight Christians. For them, it really doesn’t get much better. I have no mechanism in my body capable of manufacturing the least bit of sympathy for their “plight.” Various polls have Christians coming in at something like 75% or 80% of the population of the United States. Christians represent over 85% of the Federal Government. Straight Christians have dominated every part of every debate we have had in this country since wooden boats full of white people started showing up here in the fifteenth century.

Christians do not have to worry that if they kiss their loved ones in the wrong neighborhood they will find themselves beaten or murdered. No one goes to the parking lot to find “Christian” spray painted on their cars. No states have laws banning Christians from adopting children or getting married, and no one, anywhere, will find themselves without legal standing if they have been fired simply for being Christian. Apart from gay people asking for a few reasonable protections, the notion of Christian oppression in the United States is entirely imaginary.

In contrast, every single gay person I know has their handful of horrific stories to tell. When we were young our attackers made our lives miserable through violence, harassment  and intimidation. When the bullies grow up they turn into Rich Swiers and Frank Tureks, harassing us still, and always looking for ways to encourage and protect those who perpetrate the violence by grounding their hate in legitimacy of scripture. I’m pretty sure Dan Savage had no problem finding tales of survival to fill his book. Our enemies are the same people that were having us jailed, institutionalized, and lobotomized only a generation ago, and if we want to call them bigots for it, we are entirely justified in doing so.

Does this mean I hate Christians? No. I don’t. For one thing, hating almost everyone in the country would take a tremendous amount of energy, and I am way too lazy. I like to believe that most Christians are decent, well-meaning, hard-working people who have no malice in their hearts toward gay people, however inaccurate their conception of us likely is. I do feel like they could be doing a better job of making clear that they reject the anti-gay extremism so prevalent among their ranks. Intentional or not, keeping silent in the face of these reprehensible atrocities sends a message of implied endorsement. I’m just saying.

What I do find appalling are the attempts of anti-gay hate groups and their spineless puppets in the legislature to claim victim-hood by cloaking themselves in dubious Christian righteousness. People like Maggie Gallagher, or Rick Santorum, or any of these other sketchy “moral crusaders” should be at least as offensive to mainstream Christians as they are to LGBT people. Anti-gay groups and the mealy-mouthed hate merchants who represent them take advantage of the well-meaning loyalty and heartfelt faith of a largely disinterested Christian base in order to further their own extremist ends. This is pretty cynical manipulation, and I’m surprised Christians aren’t more upset about it. I know I would be.

Yes. We don’t like being slandered, tortured, and murdered. Calling these people bullies represents our attempt to be diplomatic. What we are really talking about here are violent hate crimes. Do you think the KKK advertises themselves as a hate group? Of course not. Ask them and they will insist that they are an organization of ethnic advocacy, like a white version of the NAACP. Does them saying it make that so? No. They are obviously a horrible hate group. It is the only reason they exist. The only difference between a Klan member and Rich Swier is that the Klan member has the good sense to hide his face in public.

If our attempts to establish legal equality for our community and relative safety for our youth ruffles a few feathers, then so be it. Under no circumstances do the successes of our fight translate into Christian oppression. Getting your way only 98% of the time doesn’t make you oppressed. It makes you the Harlem Globetrotters. If you intend to force this battle, at least do so honestly.


(Image: “The Christian Martyrs’ Last Prayer,” 1883, by Jean-Léon Gérôme.)

Benjamin Phillips is a Humor Writer, Web Developer, Civics Nerd, and all around crank that spends entirely too much time shouting with deep exasperation at the television, especially whenever cable news is on. He lives in St. Louis, MO and spends most of his time staring at various LCD screens, occasionally taking walks in the park whenever his boyfriend becomes sufficiently convinced that Benjamin is becoming a reclusive hermit person. He is available for children’s parties, provided that those children are entertained by hearing a complete windbag talk for two hours about the importance of science education, or worse yet, poorly researched anecdotes PROVING that James Buchanan was totally gay. If civilization were to collapse due to zombie hoards or nuclear holocaust, Benjamin would be among the first to die as he has no useful skills of any kind. The post-apocalyptic hellscape has no real need for homosexual computer programmers who can name all the presidents in order, as well as the actors who have played all eleven incarnations of Doctor Who.

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occupyequality November 13, 2011 at 2:51 pm

I hate Christians. Christians have enslaved, tortured and murdered hundreds of milliions of people on every continent for 2011 years (they are still murdering innocent people in Afghanistan as I write this). Those heterosupremacist tyrannical theocRAT corporate cults all have free gay bashing violence inciting blood money begging bully pulpits on Facebook, Twitter and Youtube with the sole purpose of getting LGBT people KILLED. Killed in Jesus' name. They need to take their kill gays bible, shove it down their tyrannical theocRAT throats, take a swig of Jesus Freak Koolaid and choke on it. Then we need to Occupy their graves so we can dance on their graves. The only good heterosupremacist tyrannical gay bashing Jesus Freak theocRAT is a dead heterosupremacist tyrannical gay bashing theocRAT Jesus Freak and the world will be a better place without them, and I won't miss them. Will you?

daniel monroe November 14, 2011 at 4:34 pm

Feel better now? Good! At least we know WHO you hate….and all this time I thought you wanted to get rid of hatred. Its just a one way street huh? Thats what I thought. Your mouth runneth too much.

thelovelive November 15, 2011 at 2:11 pm

Homosexuality is a SIN. It is the law of the creator. It is a dirt lifestyle and causes disease. HIV is a homosexual disease. It has NEVER exploded in the straight community!

You do not like Christians because you hate the LAW of God and you love your sin. The Bible says that this sin is a dirty abomination and it is.

God made women for men but you love sin so you want men with men. Ask God to turn you from this sin and he will. The land is polluted from homosexuality and it sadly will get worst because you love sin more than God.

Repent of this sin and beg God to change your life and he will. Jesus will forgive your sin if you turn to him with a pure heart and admit this is wrong. Most of you will never turn to God because you love sin but there is a judgment waiting for you and it will not be good. This is a dirty lifestyle that spreads disease turn from it now before you are the next statistic.

Scott_Rose November 13, 2011 at 5:40 pm

Given the way NOM recently alleged concessions out of Cisco and Bank of America over their having ended contracts with independent contractor Frank Turek, clarifications are urgently needed from those two companies. Yes or no, are they committed to safe work environments for all eventual LGBT employees? Yes or no, are they for or against sexual orientation apartheid? Frank Turek is not somebody who once or twice very incidentally made some ignorance-fueled anti-gay remark; he is to sexual orientation apartheid what David Duke is to white supremacism. If Cisco and BoA can explain to the public why they wouldn't have a white supremacist as an independent contractor, they should be able to explain to the public why they wouldn't have a heterosupremacist like Frank Turek as an independent contractor.

TaraniJoy November 14, 2011 at 2:16 pm

So as absurd as that first comment is, it actually is a good example of people who feel that way towards Christians. As a Christian – I'm sorry, as a "heterosupremacist tyrannical theocrat who gets drunk on Jesus Freak koolaid" – I am not oppressed in any kind of systemic way. As a Christian who advocates openly for gay rights, I am often caught in a crossroads where I'm trying to speak up as a Christian in support for gay rights, engage in intense dialogues with other Christians about why I feel the way I do and why I advocate for gay rights. And then I turn around and come to other gay rights' advocates who hate Christians and have to defend myself. It's exhausting. And there are many Christians who are vocal in their support of gay rights, there are groups of Progressive Christians (I was linked this article from Patheos, for instance) and "Christians Tired of Being Misrepresented," but until Christians are recognized as not being a gay-bashing-monolith, we won't be heard nearly as loudly as NOM or Family First because as is our nature, we pay attention to those screaming hate and lob hate right back. So if we pay more attention to such organizations than trying to promote the "Straight Christians" who do have the cultural capital to make a difference, then how can the voices of reason and peace be heard?

And maybe if sexual and religious identities were the only two identities that existed, then maybe things couldn't get better. I assume to just say "Straight Christian" you must mean "Straight White Christian Male" as white men are the main ones with the capital doing the lobbing (on both sides of the fence). More visible than my religious, spiritual, social, or political ideologies, is the fact that I'm a Black woman. So before anyone knows that I'm a Christian (and thereby assumes that I'm anti-gay – on both sides of the issue), they see my race and gender.

And I definitely don't like to engage in oppression olympics, but a cite called the "New Civil Rights Movement" is inherently doing so by deeming the "old" civil rights movement, well, old. As though black folks and people of color are good, and gay rights is THE civil rights movement of now. Sadly, this is pretty typical when you have white folks in charge of stuff, to willfully neglect the stories of people of color – even within the gay community. And that's nothing new. And as a Black Woman (who's a Straight Christian), I am both privileged and oppressed. I don't have the privilege, or ability rather, to disclose my race or my gender. And because I'm a Christian who advocates for gay rights, sometimes I take care in disclosing my beliefs, lest I'm called a heterosupremacist tyrannical gay bashing Jesus Freak Theocrat who is better off dead. But then I say words like "lest" and give myself away…

All this to say that Christians are not a monolith. Nor is the LGBTQ community. Nor is any other identity because everyone holds varied combinations of them all and it is a disservice to any one movement to try to coopt another. Gay is not the new black. Black is still black. Black and gay exists. Christian and gay exists. We all need to take better care to recognize the voices within our communities and movements that are being silenced by the very nature of the language used. And let's work on it not always being a Black woman to do so.

David Badash November 14, 2011 at 8:02 pm

You clearly have a lot of thoughts on this, but as the publisher here, I'll address only one: it's called "The New Civil Rights Movement" because after Prop 8 passed, that was what everyone was calling the LGBT civil rights movement. You make several assumptions about me, and the site, so let me settle a few misconceptions. (For the record, I'm gay and a man of Hispanic and Slavic backgrounds, so hardly your average "WASP.")

First, there are over 18 writers here. Some are white, some are black. Some are Christian, some are Catholic, some are atheist, some are agnostic, some have Jewish partners… Frankly, I'm not even sure what religion everyone is! In short, we're a fairly diverse bunch. I'd like to grow that but there are only so many hours in a day and I'm blessed to have the excellent writers I do have here.

While I don't expect you to be familiar with the site, I would like you to know that we advocate not only for civil rights for the LGBT community, but for many different communities. If I had limitless time (and money!) I would make the site about civil rights for all, and give equal time to all minorities who need greater representation. But I don't. Also, we've only been doing this for 3 years. Most of that time it's been just me.

So, I think, quite frankly, some credit is due.

We're working very hard to identify and amplify injustice. It's time for people to stand with us, and against the bigots who use the Bible — and the good name of good people of all faiths — against equality.

TaraniJoy November 15, 2011 at 3:13 am

Thank you for clarifying the name of the site! And from the publisher, no less. I feel special, maybe you do this all the time, but I'm going to choose to feel special anyway. You're right; I do have a lot of thoughts about this and was making a lot of assumptions, but I should be more clear. My previous comment was a bit convoluted due to all of my thoughts…

I was triggered simultaneously be the author's repeated use of "Straight Christians" and the name of the site, though I know they are separate things that have separate meanings. And I understand that this is a serious civil rights issue of our time. I may sound like I lived through the "original" civil rights movement, but I'm actually 28 yrs old. And that's part of the reason why I'm a vocal ally of advocating for gay rights. I gave a half-hearted attempt to learn more about the site, and I saw the tagline of it being for gay rights. Not for women or people of color or undocumented immigrants or any other rights, and to label a movement as "new" does two things: it brushes over the fact that the first civil rights movement did advocate for gay rights (though black people were at the forefront); and secondly, it conveys that the gay rights movement is of supreme importance. So my only issue was with the word "new."

And I'm glad to learn about the diversity of the staff. I apologize for the quip of saying that this is what happens when white people run stuff. That was a spillover from my resentment of the "Straight Christian" label that was ignoring the other identities that Straight Christians have. And typically when people normalize other identities (as in not name them), more often than not they are doing so because they are privileged in them, as in being a white man. And I made another half-hearted search on the authors name to see if he was a white man, and for all intents and privileges, he is.

egon2020 November 15, 2011 at 5:48 pm

Hello. I wrote this article, and I wanted to thank you for reading it, and for being so thoughtful. I also wanted to address your concerns regarding potential racial bias on my part. Let me clarify. All I am saying is that as a group, as a unified entity, Straight Christians see no oppression. None. Zero. I probably should have limited this to Straight Christian Americans, for clarity.

Obviously individual sub groups, such as, well, basically everyone who isn't a white male, will experience various unique challenges, including oppression. They may belong to any number of other groups that see tremendous amounts of bigotry, and you will never find a moment's quarrel from me about that. But as straight Christians, irrespective of any of those other circumstances, you really couldn't have it much better. As an African-American Woman, you are the target of a deeply reprehensible breed of bigotry that exists in nearly every part of our society. The obstacles you face, due simply to the randomness of your demographics, are real and profound and never to be minimized. Your Christianity, however, will never be among those obstacles. It's smooth sailing on that front. That is my point.

Also, yes, I am a homosexual white male. If this in someway excludes me from criticizing the bigoted hypocrisies of the Christian Right, then I do apologize. No malice to anyone else was intended. I took great pains to make mention of the many Christians who I truly believe hold no bigotry in their hearts. I wrote a whole section about that. But if honest, decent Christians have a problem with the reputation the despicable hate mongers among your religion generate for the rest of you, then I would suggest you take that up with them. The public relations problems of the American Christian establishment are in no way my problem.

Again, thanks for reading. I love a nice, civilized debate. Unlike the offering put forward by that first guy, the "I hate Christians" guy, who clearly needs psychiatric help. Come back soon!

TaraniJoy November 17, 2011 at 12:18 pm

Wow! First the publisher, and now the author! You people (you people?!?) are awesome. I really feel special now, even if you do this all the time. Thank you both for taking the time to respond to my thoughts.

Thank you also for contextualizing what we're talking about in the US. I totally agree that "Straight Christians" are not oppressed by any means on account of solely their sexual and religious orientations. While people are insulting to me sometimes, assuming that faith and intellect are mutually exclusive, as if being a Christian means I lack reasoning capacity (especially in the "ivory tower" of academia, which is extremely ivory and pretty liberal). So the fact that my intellect is already doubted on account of me being a Black woman (who happens to be African-American – not all Black people are, of course), I tend to keep my faith to myself. So yes, people say mean things about Christians, assuming that by being a Christian automatically means that you're homophobic and incapable of doing social justice work (which is what I think we're supposed to do, but whatevs). But by no means is it oppressive in any real sense, or even bullying. And I maintain that it could get better for some of us who fall within the "Straight Christian" category, particularly for people who want to make things better for others. It will be better for me when it is better for you, and vice versa.

But I don't think that a person's any one identity can be divorced from another. I research intersectionality of identity, and the idea that we hold all of our identities simultaneously, though there are times that some are more salient than others. And oppression and visibility certainly increases saliency for some, which then means that we have to increase our efforts to recognize those identities in which we are privileged. (I'm still working on my theory, stay tuned…) But basically, as a Black woman, I have to be extra vigilant about my religious and heterosexual privilege, for instance. And for you, as a member of the LGBTQ community, have the extra responsibility of taking care to recognize your white and male privilege. And perhaps we both have to check our class and "nation" privilege (being that we get to talk to each other about this on the internet in English). I can go on for days (good thing I get to write a dissertation!), but the idea being that instead of looking without to point the finger at our respective oppressors, that we all look inward to check our own biases and privileges. My point is that if we all take ourselves to task, we'd all be better off.

As far as the public relations problem of the "American Christian establishment," I think we all need to take responsibility for what we pay attention to. Not saying that it's easy to ignore the "Christian" Right, but yelling at them for being stupid is just more fodder for them to dig in their heels and not listen. As evidenced by our friend who keeps copying that comment. (Like, did they even read the article? Maybe they just go around copying that same fear-mongering sin-spouting on anything that has to do with being gay. Maybe they did it all over the site…) It's like a child having a temper tantrum who is incapable of listening until they wear themselves out. If we all spent more time lifting up the voices, like your own Joseph Ward III who said last month that our voices of love need to be louder, it would make a difference. We have the ability to make such voices louder by paying more attention to them than NOM and such. Like, I could listen to Glenn Beck, but I don't.

John Shore (one of my new favorite people) released a book this week: Wings on a Pig: Why the "Christian" View of Gays Doesn't Work. I haven't read it yet, but I plan to. I think it is a greater service to everyone to highlight this work and others like it, and pay less and less attention to people spouting the hate, and twisting and manipulating their view of God to support it. And by and large, I learn about what the "Christian" Right is doing through people who oppose it, not from them themselves. I'm just saying…

Tpur November 14, 2011 at 6:10 pm

As a gay man who has been in both sides of the gay rights debate, I have to say this: If you don't want to be lumped in with the bigots, it is time that the religious community start confronting them too. Gay people who hate those who hide their hatred behind religion isn't the problem

The problem seems to be those progressive Christians hat don't call out their leaders. Don't tell me about why I shouldn't judge you, tell that to the Pastors and anti gay folk bullying from the pulpit

thelovelive November 15, 2011 at 2:10 pm


Homosexuality is a SIN. It is the law of the creator. It is a dirt lifestyle and causes disease. HIV is a homosexual disease. It has NEVER exploded in the straight community!

You do not like Christians because you hate the LAW of God and you love your sin. The Bible says that this sin is a dirty abomination and it is.

God made women for men but you love sin so you want men with men. Ask God to turn you from this sin and he will. The land is polluted from homosexuality and it sadly will get worst because you love sin more than God.

Repent of this sin and beg God to change your life and he will. Jesus will forgive your sin if you turn to him with a pure heart and admit this is wrong. Most of you will never turn to God because you love sin but there is a judgment waiting for you and it will not be good. This is a dirty lifestyle that spreads disease turn from it now before you are the next statistic.

Qwerty50 November 16, 2011 at 12:18 am

HIV is a huge problem among heterosexuals in Africa, where it first took hold. There it is not a homosexual disease. It is a disease. Period.

What is the law of god? Apparently, it's what you say it is. Well, news flash, I don't agree with your interpretation of what the bible says, nor do a huge number of actual bible scholars.

And about asking god to turn us from what you call our sin? Been there, done that. As have millions of others. It doesn't work. We are all still gay. The way god made us.

So thanks for your judgment, but I'm not buying it. Maybe your god will, but I kind of thought that was her job to judge, not yours.

thelovelive November 16, 2011 at 5:51 pm

The Bible is clear and we will not water it down with your so-called Bible scholars who try to change the truth for their own purposes. Aids IS a gay disease…period! HIV is spreading like wildfire in San Franciso and other major cities Read it and repent. This is a filthy sin that is against the God of the Bible

God will not be mocked. This disease and more will spread worst soon because you refuse TO STOP SINNING. "Gay" (It is really sodomy) is a lie straight from hell and many of you are right on that path. Look at the beauty of a woman and beg God to open your eyes.You can call God a She if you like but when you have to stand in front of him and Jesus for your Judgement it will be a very sad day for you. REPENT

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