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  • Greg Abbott: Banning Gay Marriage Reduces Out-Of-Wedlock Births

    The Texas Republican nominee for governor says that his state's ban on same-sex marriage reduces out-of-wedlock births among heterosexuals.

    In a brief filed with the Fifth Circuit Court of Appeals on Friday, Attorney General Greg Abbott claims that the State of Texas' ban on same-sex marriage reduces out-of-wedlock births, and legalizing same-sex marriage would make different-sex couples less interested in marrying and having children.

    Texas’s same-sex marriage laws "are rationally related to the State’s interest in reducing unplanned out-of-wedlock births," Abbott, who is running for governor against Wendy Davis, claims in the brief, which was filed on Friday.

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    Abbott makes a false cost-benefit analysis, wholly ignoring the actual civil rights issues that are central to legal arguments supporting marriage equality.

    "Texas’s marriage laws are rationally related to the State’s interest in encouraging couples to produce new offspring, which are needed to ensure economic growth and the survival of the human race."

    "By channeling procreative heterosexual intercourse into marriage," Abbott adds, "Texas’s marriage laws reduce unplanned out-of-wedlock births and the costs that those births impose on society. Recognizing same-sex marriage does not advance this interest because same-sex unions do not result in pregnancy.”

    Of course, many same-sex couples adopt the very children created by the "unplanned out-of-wedlock births" of different-gender coupling, and those families deserve the same rights and protections different-sex couples are automatically granted.

    "There is no 'fundamental right' to same-sex marriage," Abbott claims. He also states "Texas’s marriage laws do not expressly classify based on sexual orientation," meaning that he says they are constitutional because they don't specifically apply only to gay and bisexual people.

    The Houston Chronicle reports that Abbott "denied that other courts’ decisions to overturn gay marriage bans represented salient precedent, saying these rulings simply represented the “purely subjective” beliefs of a few judges." 

    Same-sex marriage has won over 40 decisions in courts since the supreme Court overturned DOMA in 2013.


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    • commented 2014-10-13 23:39:08 -0400
      Well there’s a fun example of irrational circular reasoning. You could use this stuff to teach debate classes.

    • commented 2014-10-13 17:13:59 -0400
      This argument makes no sense to me. I just don’t get it. There is no logic there. Even ignoring the rights issues, there is no logic to General Abbott’s argument

    • commented 2014-10-13 13:10:03 -0400
      It’s amazing how someone in a position of any power can have so little logic or sense. His argument is completely non-sensical. It’s almost like he’s doing it on purpose to get people to vote for Wendy Davis. If his “logic” were true, then we should ban hetero couples from marrying if they don’t intend to have children because that undermines the fundamental “Get married. Have babies” ideology that we’re apparently trying to promote. Or maybe barren women or infertile/impotent men should be banned from marrying because they can’t have children with their spouses, just like gays can’t, so how is that any different? It just blows my mind when people like Abbott open their mouths and dumba$$ comes out.

    • commented 2014-10-13 11:20:39 -0400
      Wonder what study this guy referred to as proof? Let’s see, if you allow gays to marry, fewer women get pregnant out of wedlock? That’s about as rational as Rick Perry. I really think Texas should consider more laws for hospitalization of the mentally ill. They seem to have more than their share.

    • commented 2014-10-13 11:18:43 -0400
      OK, I’m NOT defending what he said AT ALL (it was 100% asinine), but what he said was NOT “Banning Gay Marriage Reduces Out-Of-Wedlock Births” as the headline states. What he said was that marriage laws are intended to reduce out-of-wedlock births and allowing gays to marry does nothing to aid that goal. IOW, “allowing gays to marry WILL NOT reduce the number of out-of-wedlock births” is not the same as “banning gay marriage WILL reduce oow births.”

      What he said was already stupid & bigoted…sensationalizing it by misrepresenting his point just gives the other side ammo to fire back.

    • commented 2014-10-13 11:12:26 -0400
      Really? But yet shows like 16 and pregnant, which glorifies having children when you are not financially stable, does not increase out of wedlock births? Come one dude get real. If you ever want the republican party to win a presidential election again, you need to rethink your platforms. Your ideology is our of date, and you’re preaching to the wrong crowd….get over yourself

    • commented 2014-10-13 10:02:03 -0400
      What does it matter what he thinks or says. In do time the supreme court will have no choose but to make a decision on gay marriage and when they rule it to be unconstitutional to ban or deny it then every state including his beloved Texas will not have a say. Screw him he doesn’t control my fate or life.

    • commented 2014-10-13 09:35:07 -0400
      Heterosexual marriage has always been the norm in Texas, and yet they lead in out of wedlock and teenage pregnancies. How in the world does allowing same-sex marriage change that? His arguments were so nonsensical that they made my brain fold in on itself for a while.

    • commented 2014-10-13 09:11:03 -0400
      He’s about as ignorant as Rick Perry.

    • commented 2014-10-12 23:05:31 -0400
      I think I just had some braincells die.

    • commented 2014-10-12 21:06:04 -0400
      Greg Abbot has been a disgrace for Texas for decades: from ruling that it is okay for a vacuum salesman to rape a mother in her home in front of her children, to this nonsense that if same-sex people marry that will discourage opposite-sex people from having babies. Is he, covertly, trying to claim that the thought of two people of the same sex is so arousing that it cools the ardor of opposite people who become disinterested in sex with each other? Nice try.

    • commented 2014-10-12 20:48:28 -0400
      I’m still not seeing how he gets banning gay marriage will reduce the amount of out of wedlock births… That doesn’t make any sense. You get knocked up because you don’t use protection or you do something to make it break or not work. He even says gays don’t produce children (thank you captain obvious), so how in the hell does allowing them to marry make more out-of-wedlock births. Gays sure as hell aren’t contributing unless they’re experimenting with the opposite sex or something like that, but that is the only time that could ever happen so either way it’s not going to add up into comparison with “normal” couples. Banning same-sex marriage should have no effect on out-of-wedlock births. If you want to get super skeptical over it, not letting gays marry could force the emotionally unstable into a relationship with the opposite sex and then stuff happens and walah, a baby! I understand that there are a lot of people opposed to same-sex marriage, but for the love of God, please use an argument that make sense. Jesus, just say that I am an ignorant being and hate gays or I don’t agree with this, because it doesn’t conform to my beliefs. That is far more believable than this.

    • commented 2014-10-12 20:12:48 -0400
      I support marriage equality. But isn’t Abbott just doing his job as Attorney General for Texas? This isn’t his personal views or his manifesto, but a legal argument put to support his client, the state of Texas. To suggest that this is somehow personal to Greg looks like a political slur to me. I see no mention of a position on marriage equality on his campaign page.

    • commented 2014-10-12 17:58:25 -0400
      Why am I not surprised this ignoramus is likely to win easily? 8 years of Shrub and 12 with the Haircut are a clue.

    • commented 2014-10-12 15:33:36 -0400
      You are a very disturbed person, you need to stay away from politics…

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    • commented 2014-10-12 13:48:49 -0400
      It also brings 10 more days of clear weather a year…smh

    • commented 2014-10-12 13:30:37 -0400
      What a moron.

      Please tell me, has ANYbody ever seen a case of homophobia or religious fundamentalism coming from an individual who wasn’t in all other ways obviously ignorant?

      I never have.

    • commented 2014-10-12 13:06:26 -0400
      I laugh at then man, but then I realize, he is talking to a lot of low life hillbillies who can’t rationalize that our President is an American citizen who is not coming after their guns. Also, I suppose after umpteen years of Bush and Perry, you kind of dumb down to Abutt level…

    • commented 2014-10-12 12:45:10 -0400
      So does this mean I should divorce my same sex husband so that heterosexuals will not have sex out of wedlock? I like to know these things.

    • commented 2014-10-12 12:02:30 -0400
      Soooo… I guess he is saying that if gays are getting married they will no longer be available to give young men sexual release and that will mean more teenage screwing around and therefore more out-of-wedlock babies?!?

    • commented 2014-10-12 11:36:01 -0400
      “By channeling procreative heterosexual intercourse into marriage,” Abbott adds, "Texas’s marriage laws reduce unplanned out-of-wedlock births and the costs that those births impose on society. Recognizing same-sex marriage does not advance this interest because same-sex unions do not result in pregnancy.”
      He is twisting things around to meet his needs….OMG!…I got it! He is using Christianeeze!
      This makes no sense. It does however prove why we should not put the Bible in our fact based educational system. The lack of critical thinking skills is astounding clear in his statement.

    • commented 2014-10-12 11:33:00 -0400
      I’m confused. How does a same sex couple getting married affect the sexual proclivities of heterosexuals? That’s like saying if I own a cat it tramples on the rights of dog owners…

    • commented 2014-10-12 10:59:33 -0400
      Fire your speech writer then send him to a sex ed class. Homos can’t create children, they’re not properly equipped.

    • commented 2014-10-12 10:53:22 -0400
      As the desperation grows and panic sets in, the republican rhetoric is going to get increasingly bizarre, outlandish, and nasty. Do they really believe the garbage that falls out of their mouths?

    • commented 2014-10-12 10:23:33 -0400
      My but Mr Abbott is interested in other people’s intercourse. F’n busybody.

    • commented 2014-10-12 09:32:53 -0400
      I weep for Texas to think that this man is Attorney General and that he may become governor.

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