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  • Anti-Gay Religious Zealot Files Discrimination Charges Against Pro-Equality Baker

    A Colorado bakery is under fire from a man who wanted a bible cake with a hate-filled anti-gay message.

    If you want a wedding cake, the Azucar Bakery in Denver wants to make one for you. Gay, straight, they don't care. A walk through their Facebook photos shows a vast assortment of cakes and desserts, which may be one of the reasons owner Marjorie Silva (photo above) won an award for Best Wedding Cake at the 2012 Colorado Chocolate Festival.

    Recently, an older man walked into the bakery and asked for a bible-shaped cake, which was "no problem at all," Silva tells OutFront. In fact, she says she makes Christian-themed cakes "all the time."

    The man pulled out a piece of paper with the words he wanted written on the cake, but he would not hand it over.

    "He wanted us to write God hates …" one of the employees, Lindsey, told OutFront. "Just really radical stuff against gays."

    "He wouldn’t allow me to make a copy of the message, but it was really hateful," Marjorie says. "I remember the words detestable, disgrace, homosexuality, and sinners."

    "I told him that I would bake the cake in the shape of a Bible," says Marjorie. "Then I told him I’d sell him a [decorating] bag with the right tip and the right icing so he could write those things himself."

    "He told me I needed to talk to my attorney about this," Marjorie adds, saying he then left the bakery, only to return a few hours later, to ask if she had contacted her lawyer. She had not.

    Lindsey says she thinks the man "was looking for trouble, and describes him as "being really pushy and disruptive."

    Silva has since been notified by the Colorado Department of Regulatory Agencies (DORA) that a discrimination complaint against the bakery has been filed.

    In the response to the complaint, Lindsay wrote that the man "wanted an open book with the words 'god hates homosexuality' and a 'no' sign over two men. He also wanted a scripture and the Ghostbusters logo."

    Marjorie added, "the customer wanted us to draw two males holding hands … with a big 'X' on them. I told him that we do not like to discriminate in this bakery, we accept all humans and that the message and drawing is extremely rude."

    Of course, the story is getting a great deal of attention, even on social media. 

    On Reddit, readers were overwhelmingly supportive of the bakery. 

    A few comments from Redditors:

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    DORA will need to decide based on Colorado ordinances, but it seems unlikely the man can win. Or does it?

     

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    • commented 2015-01-25 14:05:35 -0500
      What he is saying in effect is that his religion preaches hatred and intolerance.

    • commented 2015-01-18 21:39:50 -0500
      David, in Colorado and in many other states, sexual orientation is a protected class.

    • commented 2015-01-18 21:10:01 -0500
      I hate to say it but the gay community brought this on themselves. Members of the gay community sued a bakery for refusing to bake a wedding cake for a gay wedding. That couple won. Sexual orientation is not s protected class. Religion is! I don’t agree with the customer’s message but if a bakery can not refuse to provide goods for an unprotected class then another should bakery should not be able to refuse service for a protected class even if the message is not pleasant.

    • commented 2015-01-18 19:51:02 -0500
      Gina, with that logic… what you are telling me is that I can walk in a christian owned bakery, order a custom cake, and have them write an anti christian message. If it was refused… i can sue for discrimination? She offered to bake the cake to his specification… she refused to write a hate message.

    • commented 2015-01-17 03:25:03 -0500
      The owner handled this case correctly, writing God Hates Fags on a cake, and then that cake gets given to a gay somebody, constitutes hate speech, the guy giving the cake and the baker of the cake could get sued. Giving the guy the option of writing his own cake she circumvented being an accomplice in a hate crime….

    • commented 2015-01-16 14:34:47 -0500
      Gina: The specifics of the cake were refused yes, but she made it clear that she would still provide the service of baking the cake and decorating it up to that specific point. She wasn’t outright refusing to do anything like previous bakeries, and expressly said that she is willing to make a christian cake. The refusal wasn’t due to religion, but due to the hateful speech, again no different from if his “religious beliefs” had him asking for a racist cake and that was refused instead.

    • commented 2015-01-16 11:42:50 -0500
      • All Businesses have the right to refuse service to anyone.*

    • commented 2015-01-16 11:15:59 -0500
      Gina Conners: As many pointed out, if she were asked to write “God hates niggers” on the cake, nobody would bat an eye at her refusal to do the writing. She still offered to do what she does and make the cake, she merely refused to write the hateful language that came with it and instead offered him the tools to write them himself. It’s not like she outright demanded he leave. In fact, her agreeing to make a Bible Cake in the first place tells that he has no case for discrimination, as, again, she was willing to offer a compromise and still perform the service.

    • commented 2015-01-16 11:14:54 -0500
      Spenser, I think you’re wrong about the guy not having a case. She doesn’t hand other customers a piping bag and tell them to decorate their own cakes. She would be treating him differently than her other customers. And since it is supposed to be an expression of his “religious” beliefs, he might find a judge who would say he was a member of a protected class and that she was unfairly discriminating against him because of his religion.

      She’s better off giving him exactly what he asks for and pays for, and then shoving it down his throat by drumming up tons of bad press against him.

    • commented 2015-01-16 11:08:59 -0500
      I really hate to say it, but this is different than the bakeries that are refusing service to gay customers for same sex weddings. All this guy is asking her to do is bake and decorate a cake to his specifications. The exact same thing she does for every other customer who comes in for a custom cake. It’s not up top her to edit or judge what her customers want on their cakes.

      I’m not a lawyer, but it seems like she has a very weak case. Were I in her shoes I would agree to make the cake and then publish the guy’s name and phone number on her bakery’s webpage, along with a photo of the cake. I would say it was a warning to other bakers that this sort of tactic was being adopted by the God Nazis of the Christian Right. I’d also make sure every LGBT advocacy group in the country knew about it, as well.

      And I would tell the guy when he came in that I was going to do all of that. Since there is no expectation of privileged communication between a baker and her customer, he would have a hard time claiming she invaded his privacy. Especially since he would voluntarily have to give her his contact information to order the cake.

      Turn the tables on the bastard.

    • commented 2015-01-16 04:01:14 -0500
      As many have already said, this guy has no case because she not only offered him service, but she attempted to accommodate his wishes in a manner she felt comfortable while still doing her job. This is the exact opposite of what the other places have done, where they just outright booted the customers out of the door.

    • commented 2015-01-16 00:41:28 -0500
      I am wondering as to the timing of this incident as Theodore Shoebat recently posted in Dec his experiment with a similar MO. He confronted 13 known pro-LGBT bakeries but his tactics weren’t quite as disgusting. He didn’t appear to be asking people to print “hate speech”.

      By all appearances, that is what this gentleman was asking, that the bakery endorse a form of speech known as “fighting words” that is not protected by the First Amendment.

    • commented 2015-01-15 20:11:44 -0500
      I kinda wish she had made it and smilingly said “There you go, hope you like it!” when she handed it over for payment. That probably would have made him even more angry than not doing it did.

    • commented 2015-01-15 20:10:06 -0500
      How can you be torn on this one? In the case that prompted this idiot to act this way, the bakery was asked to bake a wedding cake. They weren’t asked to make a pentagram cake with “CHRISTIANS SUCK” or “CHRISTIANS MAKE ME SICK” or “EFF CHRISTIANS” on it. And in this new case she even said she’d bake his stupid hatecake. Frivolous and a really poor attempt to prove a point.

    • commented 2015-01-15 19:56:32 -0500
      I’m honestly torn on this one. It is a disgusting man and his horrid message, but the case is, did she have a message up saying to the effect ‘we do not serve hate speech’? That’s the only case I can think of she might be liable for. I wouldn’t know what the fine would be, but I’m certain, if and that’s a weak if, she were found in violation, it would be small.

    • commented 2015-01-15 16:48:08 -0500
      head desk This putz was baiting them. Theist morons still don’t get it. Hate speech isn’t protected. If he wanted to put “God hates niggers” on that cake, no one, NO ONE. would say a word if she refused.

    • commented 2015-01-15 16:08:53 -0500
      If she simply said that they do not bake cakes with derogatory messages for ANYONE, there is no way for him to possibly scream “discrimination.”

    • commented 2015-01-15 16:03:31 -0500
      This is a striking example of what the truly discriminatory businesses have not done. For the folks who have gotten in trouble, there have been no attempts at conversation or accommodation, just walking same-sex couples out the door with a blatant denial of service.

      But, for the business owners who have gotten called on it, dealing competently with customers they’d rather not serve (all businesses have ’em) is just too much to ask.

    • commented 2015-01-15 15:45:35 -0500
      can you say frivolous lawsuit?

    • commented 2015-01-15 15:44:59 -0500
      There isn’t anything discriminatory about what Marjorie Silva is doing. She offered to make the cake, she just the message reprehensible though. And offered the person the equipment and enough icing to complete the cake to his satisfaction. Now he wants to sue because she wouldn’t decorate a cake with disgusting messages? This is the real agenda of the Far Right, forcing their religious belief system on others who don’t want or need to believe their message to adhere to an outmoded and outdated medieval message

    • commented 2015-01-15 15:43:13 -0500
      This is what I have been saying right alone since all this discrimination against gays started getting popular, that Christian fanatics are going to kick themselves in the pants because when you to pass laws that allow discrimination, that means allowances for EVERYONE. Not just against gays. Not everyone is a Christian, so, that means discrimination can take place against them too!!!
      Oh, boo hoo! Then they will be crying about the war on Christianity. Just shows they can dish it out but cant take it.

    • commented 2015-01-15 15:02:15 -0500
      This smells of Theodore Shoebat (or one of his followers) and his little “experiment”.

    • commented 2015-01-15 14:22:21 -0500
      Not to mention that if he wanted a “Ghostbusters logo” there is the issue of copyright infringement. This was obviously an attempt to set her up for a discrimination complaint. She didn’t refuse him service, she just doesn’t provide hate messaging on her cakes, just like some bakers/decorators won’t provide “naughty” cakes or shaped cakes…it’s not a product they sell.

    • commented 2015-01-15 14:22:20 -0500
      Christians love to jate in the name of Jesus. God and His Son vomit at the mere thought of them.

    • commented 2015-01-15 14:18:29 -0500
      If she were asked to print n****r on a cake and refused, would there be any outcry? How about any of George Carlin’s famous :7 Words"? No. This idiot is just trying to stir the crap pot. I’d tell him to take his “Hate Cake” and shove it where the sun never shines. Ordinances or law suits be damned.

    • commented 2015-01-15 13:48:58 -0500
      this may be the test case. Like printing the Westboro Baptist signs or allowing the KKK to march, we all do things we disagree with when serving the public…will be interesting to see the outcome here. Will NOM pick up on this do ya think?

    • commented 2015-01-15 13:47:37 -0500
      I think she is going to ok. She never said she wouldn’t bake the man a cake, only that she would not decorate it with hateful messages. I am sure there will be lawyers lining up to represent her pro bono…

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