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  • 'I Do Not Construe Homosexual Rights As Human Rights' Says GOP Human Rights Subcommittee Head

    The Chairman of a Republican House subcommittee on human rights is under fire for his claim that gay rights are not human rights.

    U.S. Congressman Chris Smith earlier this week announced gay rights are not human rights. "I am a strong believer in traditional marriage and I do not construe homosexual rights as human rights," Smith said. He also suggested that the Obama administration’s "views on LGBT rights affected or hindered our support for Nigeria to defeat Boko Haram." 

    The conservative Republican from New Jersey is now under attack by LGBT groups in his home state and nationally, by the Human Rights Campaign.

    Heightening the impact of his anti-gay statement is that Rep. Smith is the chairman of the Subcommittee on Africa, Global Health, Global Human Rights, and International Organizations, and made his comments at a meeting of that subcommittee, which is a part of the House Foreign Affairs Committee. 

    Congressman Smith's remarks were made on Wednesday, perhaps ironically, during a hearing he chaired on Nigeria. That same day, Nigerian law enforcement arrested twelve men accused of holding a same-sex wedding

    “It’s simple: LGBT rights are human rights. It’s shocking that Smith — or anyone in his position — would make such close-minded comments to the contrary,” said Chris Hillmann, Co-Chair of the New Jersey Democratic LGBT Caucus. “For a person in his position to dehumanize such a large segment of our society and to suggest that members of the LGBT community are creating hurdles for U.S. diplomats is appalling on so many levels. Representative Smith should apologize for trying to pit some people’s human rights against those of others.”

    Ty Cobb, Director of HRC Global, called it "unconscionable" that "Representative Smith would not only object to the basic human rights of LGBT people, but argue that their rights should not be part of the administration’s policy in Nigeria." HRC has given Smith a rating of "0."

    New Jersey LGBT activist Jay Lassiter framed the anti-gay Congressman's comments, noting that in "Chris Smith’s world we don’t construe gays rights with human rights, but we do conflate supporting gays with somehow enabling terrorism."

    UPDATE - 1:50 PM EST: Rep. Smith received $10,000 from the anti-gay hate group Family Research Council in the 2014 election cycle.


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    • commented 2016-06-30 11:22:24 -0400
      As I like to tell people, “You don’t like the view? There’s another one over your shoulder.”

    • commented 2016-06-30 01:00:13 -0400
      To Anonymous: being gay is natural – it’s a part of nature, just as being Black and left handed are. There are things called genes – they predispose people to certain traits. I can control my holding hands and kissing my partner in public, but I’m not going to do it for your comfort…..actually, I’m not going to do it for anyone’s comfort. If my public display of affection bothers you, as when women breast feeding (which is also natural and beautiful) bothers some people, then stop gawking and judging and trying to cram what you believe to be “right” or “normal” down my throat. I don’t go around judging you for being dense – so just live and let live MOFOS!!!!

    • commented 2016-06-30 00:49:43 -0400
      I know, I know – total cliche…BUT, those who protest the hardest always have something to hide, and THIS CRAP is just a distraction. Oh, and since where are LGBTQ not human asshole??

    • commented 2016-06-29 22:05:27 -0400
      I don’t give a sh*t WHAT he thinks. One thing is certain, you can’t ‘construe’ what he said wasn’t completely bigoted!

    • commented 2015-06-16 20:37:46 -0400
      Paul, I’d like to try and make a distinction between your comparisons with the oppression of gays vs opression of blacks and south paws.

      People oppressed them because of what they were. If you were black you were oppressed. If you were left handed you were oppressed.

      People oppress gays because they are gay too. I also think this is wrong.

      The distinction is that gay behaviour is something you can control Someone can’t change the colour of their skin in public. Someone can’t change being left handed in public (unless they physically train themselves to be ambidextrous?). Someone can’t change being a gay person in public. A christian can’t stop being a christian in public..

      But someone gay can stop showing gay behaviour in public. A christian can stop preaching in public.

      If I see a man that I know is gay in public, it doesn’t bother me. As I’ve said before, some of my favourite characters in my favourite tv shows are gay.

      But if I see two gay men holding hands in public, or my favourite gay character kissing someone else it does bother me. Where does that bother come from? Why does it bother me? I certainly don’t know the answer to that question. Fundamentally, I think it comes down to the ickiness factor, and fundamentally, I think that comes down to the abnormality that is gay sex (ie you can’t have sex with sex organs).

      Fundamentally, I think you have a right to be gay, but I don’t believe it is a basic human right for you to show gay behaviour in public.

      It is something you know offends people, deep down you know it is biologicallly flawed, and you know that it incites hate in people.

      Where is the biological flaw in black people and left handers? Why is my argument a misconception that gay sex is biologically flawed?

    • commented 2015-06-16 18:59:59 -0400
      In answer to your previous post Paul

      1) It seems that you’re trying to say that the precedence has been set with ‘hate’ groups that have been proven wrong upon misconceptions.

      So I guess you’re trying to say that I have a misconception about gay sex being biologically flawed? Can you tell me where my misconception is Paul?

      1) Why can’t gays have sexual intercourse with organs that are classified biologically as sex organs?
      2) Why does your semen end up in another man’s digestive system at the end of sex??
      3) Why when you’re having intercourse does it always involve something in the digestive system

      I am happy to be proven wrong, but to me gay sex is biologically flawed, a perversion, and I’d be interested to know your thoughts on why that is a misconception.

      I’m not sure about where you’re going with religion. People hate each others religions because they conflict with their own deeply held beliefs.

      Do you think that showing your religion where you know where it will be hated is going help the situation or make it worse?

      Do you think that showing your sexuality where you know it is going to be hated is going to help the situation or make it worse?

      I’m also interested to know your thoughts on why I hate gay intimacy. Why do I feel like my skin is crawling when I see it? Why do I get reflux? I have no explanation for it, which is why I can only say it’s a natural physical reaction. Mel says it can be cured, but to be cured it would need to be an illness. Why is it an illness?

    • commented 2015-06-16 18:45:19 -0400
      Another question Paul, if you don’t mind.

      Let’s forget individual people’s wants and needs for the time being, and think about the benefit for society as a whole.

      What are the advantages and disadvantages for society as a whole for “sexually promiscuous” behaviour (eg gay sex, sex before marriage, affairs, swingers, multiple partners).

      Do you think it benefits society or is disadvantageous for society as a whole?

      It’s a subject I haven’t put much thought into, and it’s one I haven’t seen covered in the media. I’d be interested to gather some thoughts on it if you’re interested in contributing.


    • commented 2015-06-16 18:31:35 -0400
      Paul, I’ve already answered your closing question – multiple times in fact.

      I’ve got a question for you Paul if you don’t mind

      What are the most important reasons why the LGBT community should be allowed inter-sex marriage?

    • commented 2015-06-16 18:21:32 -0400
      Yes Mel I said that and then I corrected it.

      You’re still skirting the issues you can’t face Mel.

    • commented 2015-06-16 16:27:53 -0400
      I read the entire thread before my first post. Here is my second and last.

      (1) Interracial marriage is a building block of civilization?
      One of the arguments against miscegenation was that it would mean the breakdown of western civilization. There was court decisions up to Loving that claimed God was the original segregationist and antimiscegenationist. There are still churches in the US where, based on their reading of the Bible, interracial marriage is not tolerated. Some conservatives are feaked out that DNA has proved beyond reasonable doubt that President Jefferson had children with a black slave. (2) Southpaws used to be burned at the stake. (3) Religion can be physical: look at those who practice of religion requires some form of head covering, perhaps a hijab, perhaps a beard. A number of religions have easily distinguishable public presentations.

      Race is a bogus concept. It changes with the times and with the places. Perhaps the definition is based on the percentage of one’s ancestry. Perhaps the definition is based on the degree of melanin in the skin. Different circumstances draw the lines at different places. I remember on woman who said she is “black” in the US, “coloured” in South Africa, and “white” in Brazil. Concepts of “public gay behavior” vary from country to country. Go to Greece and straight male public displays of affection between would cause you physical discomfort.

      The Religious Right is very loud and prominent in the national scene with its anti-LGBT rhetoric. It is the base of the Republican party. Some even want to deport or intern LGBT people. It is behind attempts to thwart anti-discrimination legislation for LGBT people..

      I’m also back to my closing question – why are you bothering to post anything here, especially material which is radically at odds with the site?

    • commented 2015-06-16 10:36:46 -0400
      Anonymous, just to let you know, I’m not even reading your comments anymore. You’ve tried to twist my words and failed miserably. You say that people CAN have oral and anal intercourse, but it’s not intercourse. Stupid is as stupid does. You see, you’re posting comments more often than anyone else here, so it would seem YOU have the problem, not anyone else. The rest of the world isn’t wrong, you are. But you go right ahead and keep posting, I really don’t give a fuck anymore and I will just delete the emails that have alerted me to your postings. I am done with you!

    • commented 2015-06-16 05:51:31 -0400
      “However, I am correct when I stated that the prostate gland can be manipulated through the anus. That’s why when you go into a doctors office and have your prostate gland examined, they stick their finger up your ass”

      Mel, do you think that it’s slightly unusual that to manipulate the prostate gland, you have to go through a digestive organ to get there?

      Do you think that it’s slightly unusual that even though you’re manipulating the prostate gland, there is no direct contact between your penis and the gland?

      Why are there so many “slightly unusual” things about gay sex Mel?

    • commented 2015-06-16 04:36:37 -0400
      now i’m really confused with my words.

      You can call it sexual intercourse, but it is not sexual intercourse using 2 sex organs, hence it is not ‘normal sex’.

      You can call anything true sex if you want, but it’s not normal and it’s a perversion because you are not using sex organs to perform it.

    • commented 2015-06-16 04:03:47 -0400
      " As far as he’s concerned, the only true sex is between a male and female."
      Yes that’s actually right. The only sexual intercourse is between a penis and a vagina.

      You can have oral or anal intercourse, but it’s not sexual intercourse, because you are not interacting with two sex organs.

    • commented 2015-06-16 03:59:25 -0400
      Hi Mel,

      When you have anal or oral intercourse, your semen ends up in the other person’s digestive system.

      Don’t you think that’s a bit unusual?

      I’m sorry, but I just don’t get how you could possibly think that gay sex is not a perversion.

    • commented 2015-06-16 03:26:24 -0400
      " His main factor regarding gay people is the “ick” factor, which is treatable. "

      I think that’s like saying that being gay is treatable. People still think that too you know. Let’s say it is true. Who is going to pay the billions of dollars to treat 30-40 or whatever percentage of the population it is?

      " He also refuses to believe that being gay is as natural as being left handed"

      Incorrect. I agree that being gay is as natural as being left-handed. But not everything that is natural, is normal, eg birth defects. Every organ (apart from the appendix) in the human body has a clearly defined function in biology. The fact is, gays cannot have sexual intercourse with sexual organs. Hence it is not normal, even though it is naturally occurring.

      " As far as he’s concerned, the only true sex is between a male and female."

      No not true. People can have sex with whatever they want. But it’s called sexual outercourse. You can have anal intercourse, but that’s not sexual intercourse because you’re not using sex organs. This is why it’s called a perversion, because it’s not normal.

      “Why is it you think that you see homosexuality out in the open for the world to see?”
      I didn’t say I see it. I said you are trying to make it more public eg with ‘gay marriage rights’. I am telling you that by making it more public, you are going to incite hate.

      “We, as in myself and my partner, don’t show any type of PDA, and if we do it’s on a very special occasion and only among our friends and family.”

      That’s excellent, and you should be commended for it.

      As I said Mel, we do all have perversions. I told you why I singled out the Gays. It’s because of all the perversions, you are the only ones that want to demonstrate it in public eg with gay marriage rights, and gay pdas. Can you tell me any other perversion that shows in public? Do people masturbate in public? Do people have sex with dogs in public? Do you see fathers and daughters making out in public? Is there a cunnilingus society? Do fathers try and marry their daughters? Do swingers show in public or do they do it privately? Every perversion is private Mel, except you are trying to normalise yours and get it out there for all the world to see.

      Why am I obsessed with gay people? Because of the paragraph above.

    • commented 2015-06-16 03:10:52 -0400
      Paul, I’ve tried to reason with him, and I find it’s impossible to reason with an unreasonable person. His main factor regarding gay people is the “ick” factor, which is treatable. But he refuses to believe that. He also refuses to believe that being gay is as natural as being left handed. He’s claimed that holding hands is foreplay. Even glances at each other is foreplay. His idea of sex is to stick his cock into a pussy, pump, cum, done. How thrilling that must be for his partner. Poor thing has probably no idea what an orgasm is or how it feels. He wants to be right about everything, but as the readers saw, he’s lost it, completely. Even going as far as to tell us how to make a barrel into a sex organ. As far as he’s concerned, the only true sex is between a male and female. I’ve even suggested a book for him to read that would explain human sexuality. But to no avail, will he see anything outside of his delusional, antiquated sexual proclivities.

      Anonymous, I really don’t care what you think are perversions, that’s on you. The way you speak regarding anything but straight sex, I would have to say that you either seek it out, or you live in an area like San Francisco, in the heart of the Castro district. Outside of that, I really don’t think you see it the way you claim to see it. You are obviously obsessed with anything gay. There is help for you, you just have to find it. You’ve chided me with your questions and statements ad nauseam. I DON’T CARE WHAT YOU THINK. I will NOT hide in a closet to make you feel better. If you don’t like it, turn away, and if you turn away to see it elsewhere, get out of the middle of a gay pride festival. However, I am correct when I stated that the prostate gland can be manipulated through the anus. That’s why when you go into a doctors office and have your prostate gland examined, they stick their finger up your ass. You see, I don’t care what you think are perversions, I don’t care what you think is sex, I don’t care what you think is foreplay, I just don’t care anything about you or what you have to say at this point. So I guess the question is, why are you SO obsessed with our lives? Why is it you think that you see homosexuality out in the open for the world to see? I bet you’ve mistaken brothers, friends, sisters and their mothers as being homosexual. The fact is, you’re barking up the wrong tree here. We, as in myself and my partner, don’t show any type of PDA, and if we do it’s on a very special occasion and only among our friends and family. The fact that you think that every gay person out there is showing their sexuality, you couldn’t be more wrong. But as I’ve stated and proven in our past posts, you are so mother fucking stupid it’s beyond belief. So, if you think jacking off to pictures of women is a perversion, then the entire human race is perverted, yet you single out one small segment of a secular nation as being perverted. Still, the question is, and I’ve asked it before, why are you so obsessed with gay people?

    • commented 2015-06-16 01:22:49 -0400
      Further to that, people should be able to say who or what they are, without fear of discrimination based on who or what they are. BUT to demonstrate who or what they are publicly, when they know it offends people …. that is inciting hate.

      The issue is that you feel you are being discriminated against because of who or what you are, whereas the other side of the story is that your behaviour is offensive, and your behaviour does not let us be who or what we are.

    • commented 2015-06-16 00:56:29 -0400
      I hope you see what I’m saying Paul. The behaviour is what should remain closeted – not the person.

    • commented 2015-06-15 23:27:09 -0400
      “Following your logic of closeted behavior, I guess you would say that people of minority religions should never leave their houses because some people find them icky!”

      No that’s not logical at all. Because you can’t tell that a person is from a minority religion by them leaving their homes.

      If the same person starts letting you know about that religion, then perhaps that is a bit offensive and you’d tell them where to go. That is a behaviour they do not need to show in public, and hopefully would not show once they realise it would offend people.

      Heterosexuals are also ‘persecuted’ Paul. We cannot have sex in public. If a couple pash each other in public they’ll also receive a right royal serve from a lot of people.

      People draw the line about what is tolerable and what isn’t tolerable. I’m saying that bringing any gay intimacy out in public is not tolerable for a lot of people.

    • commented 2015-06-15 23:10:40 -0400
      I’ve got a question for you Paul if you don’t mind answering?

      What do you think is the origin for all the hate that Gays receive – what do you really think it all comes back down to?

    • commented 2015-06-15 22:30:50 -0400

      1) Interracial sex is a building block of society, so if people find that a bit icky they need to get over it.

      2) Left Handers not even worth commenting on it’s such a stupid point

      3) Religion is not a physical attribute, so anything icky is psychological

      4) Shaved/Unshaved, yes maybe people might find it a bit icky, but it’s not offensive.. People can get over things that are a liitle bit icky. If things want to make you puke, or your skin crawl, or your hair stand up on the end of your neck, then it’s just a naturally physical reaction, and one you can’t get over.

      My motivation is based on the fact that I feel like I am losing a civil liberty with the ‘normalisation’ of homosexuals. When I see gay intimacy I have an adverse physical reaction that I can’t explain. It’s a truly awful feeling, and I hate it. There are millions of other heterosexuals that experience this same physical reaction. We don’t hate gays, we hate the way gay intimacy makes us feel.

    • commented 2015-06-15 22:11:53 -0400
      Mel and Arthur: You have greater patience than me. Congratulations and thanks.

      Anonymous: Consider a couple of other examples of consensus thinking: (1) interracial sex is icky (2) left-handedness is of the devil. What do you propose for interracial marriages? What do you propose for southpaws? (BTW – they need special scissors since the regular kind are right-handed.) Mental health professionals hold that discomfort with those groups is treatable.

      How about minority religions? Jews constitute less than 5% of the US population. Some people have strong prejudices against Jews — a treatable situation according to mental health professionals. How about Muslims? They’re only about 1% of the US population. The anti-Muslim prejudice in this country is downright frightening.. Following your logic of closeted behavior, I guess you would say that people of minority religions should never leave their houses because some people find them icky! I happen to have a beard. I guess I have to shave it off because some people find it icky. I also know people, however, who find an unnatural (!) shaved face to be icky. What should I do?

      “Normal” sexuality changes over time and over cultures. It wasn’t that long ago that anything other than straight coitus (I suspect you pronounce it with 3 syllables) was a serious crime. Some states even had laws requiring straight sex to be in the missionary position with the man on top. Are you aware of the origin of the term “missionary position”? It’s because Christian missionaries demanded other societies to adopt that position, much to the utter amusement of people who practiced other positions. I sometimes work with a definition of sex organ as a portion of anatomy hard-wired to produce sexual pleasure. The mouth and the anus both qualify (but the hands don’t). This is most clearly seen in evolutionary development: while in human females the anus and the vagina have separate external orifices, this is a development from the earlier situation of a common orifice for these two. I would like to note that one consequence of “abstinence only” sex ed is the noticeable increase in anal sex among young straights. The message sent by these programs is that the only “real” or “valid” sex is straight vaginal intercourse. Therefore, if they do anything else, such as oral or anal sex, they’re still abstinent virgins!!

      In closing, while you’re certainly welcome to read and post on this website, I always wonder what motivates people who are strongly adverse to the views on a site to post their strongly contrary views on it — especially at such great length.

    • commented 2015-06-15 21:15:00 -0400
      Mel guess what, I have my very own perversions too.

      But Mel, I keep them in the closet. Nobody knows about my perversions because I know they would offend people. I even hid from my wife the fact I masturbate to pictures of naked women because I knew it would offend her, even though it is a “natural” part of sexuality.

      Nobody really cares about what you do or how you do it. But the fact is, by coming out and making everything so public you are making us care, because it offends us. Wake up and realise it’s a perversion, and for the love of god keep it private.

    • commented 2015-06-15 21:05:43 -0400
      How to turn a barrel into a sex organ.

      Step 1

      Drill a holl in it about a metre high, with a diameter of about 5 cm

      Step 2

      Insert naked woman into barrel, with vagina lined up with hole

      Step 3

      Insert penish through barrel hole into vagina

      Congratulations, you have successfully turned a barrel into your very own sex organ.

    • commented 2015-06-15 20:53:58 -0400
      Mel you are so sick and twisted its beyond belief. The prostrate gland sits OUTSIDE the anus and is not even attached to it. You are stimulating it from inside the anus, even though it’s not fucking there. No the anus is not a sex organ any more than a tree with a hole in it is a sex organ. You are so deluded that I’m beginning to think that there is some mental illness associated with your abnormality.

    • commented 2015-06-15 20:48:29 -0400
      Good god you’re stupid. Yes, we have sex with sex organs. As a matter of fact, the anus is an erogenous area with the prostate gland being stimulated through anal sex. Is that what you wanted to hear. Of course we have sex with sexual organs. How do you have sex? You’re insinuating that just because two people of the same gender have the same type of sexual organs, that it’s impossible for gay people to have sex. Which is far from the truth. Also, in everyone of my fucking posts to you, I’ve stated that you don’t need penetration for sex. But that fact has failed to enter that area between your ears where your brain should be. You keep calling our lives sexual perversions, not so, as I stated all throughout our insipid conversation. I’m not going into detail about the gay persons sex life just so you can sit there and masturbate to what I’m writing. If you want to do that, there are many websites that you can visit for free to read up on, and masturbate to. Here’s two: www.freegaypix.com and www.nifty.org. You are saying that our sex is a perversion, when sex is such a small part of who we are. Our lives are NOT perversions. You’re trying so hard to discredit me and make me look foolish, when it’s you who’ve discredited yourself and made you look foolish. Holding hands and looking at one another is NOT foreplay as you’ve stated. That’s only one time you made yourself look foolish, you stupid imp, every post you’ve written only makes you look more foolish than before. Quit while you’re behind, because that’s the only place you’ll be with our so called conversation. I laugh at you for so many reasons, I’ve even shared this with others so they can get a laugh, and they do. They can’t believe how stupid you are and appear. Now, if you want to masturbate to descriptions of gay sex, click on those links I’ve provided for you so you can quit masturbating with every post here, and do it where you’ll get descriptive hard core action. But if that doesn’t do it for you, then there is www.xtube.com, and you can get your full hard on there. I’m done with you now. so go away and quit bothering me you dumb fuck!

    • commented 2015-06-15 10:11:03 -0400
      Yes Mel you have sex with organs. But tell me Mel, do you have sex with sex organs? Come on, answer truthfully now. Tell me you have sex with sex organs.. please Mel you’re trying to insinuate that you do, but really you can’t can you?

      I have already told you that I have sex for fun. But tell me this Mel, have you ever walked down the street looked at someone and been able to say just by looking at them:

      1) That person masturbates
      2) That person does cunnilingus
      3) That person is a paedophile
      4) That person has sex with mannequins
      5) That person has sex with a dog
      6) That person has sex with a dildo
      7) That person does his wife anally
      8) That person has gay sex.

      The thing is Mel, 8) is the only one you can answer yes to, because out of all the sexual perversions, homosexuals are the only ones coming out in public and announcing to the world that they’re perverted.

      Please, keep it in your closet. We don’t want to know, and if we didn’t know about it we wouldn’t care about it. That’s what everyone else does, and you should do it too.

    • commented 2015-06-15 05:21:31 -0400
      I’m not going back to copy and paste what you said. I’ve already done that in every post to you that I’ve made. We can have sex with our organs. That’s what sex consists of, stimulating the sex organs to orgasm. You’re the one that’s delusional! Yes, we have sex with each other, from mutual masturbation, to full on anal intercourse. However, with someone with such a limited view of sex and sexuality, I don’t expect for you to understand this. Sex is not only for procreation. Sex is also for fun, building a closeness with our significant others, and bonding. But you seem to think that just because we don’t procreate when we’re having sex, then it can’t be sex. You are fucking delusional. As I’ve stated before, you can go to your local library and sign out “The Joy of Sex”, yes, it is dated, but it gives you a description on how to enjoy sex without penetration, procreating. Oh, and btw, you’re not funny, you’re stupid, delusional, arrogant, yes, and not very smart. We don’t NEED to procreate, and there is no law stating that we have to. There is no law that says that you must procreate to get married either. Procreation is done by those who accidentally, or purposely get pregnant. Also, what you’re telling me is that not only do you think that looks, hand holding, and similar actions are foreplay, but you’re also stating that you have sex only for procreation. Keep talking, because you’re telling us a lot more about yourself than what you claim you’re telling us about us. Like I said, I feel very sorry for any partner you have, or are going to have. You sound like you’re right out of the Duggar household. You claim to be one way, yet you’re telling us another. Keep it up moron, because I’m laughing all the time.

    • commented 2015-06-15 04:59:46 -0400
      LOL you’re funny Mel. Delusional, but funny. I never once claimed that because you’re 10% of the population you’re abnormal. The only thing I have claimed is that you can’t have sex with sex organs so you’re not normal.

      Yes you know how to procreate. But to procreate you have to become a practising heterosexual. Doesn’t that strike you as slightly “unusual” Mel?

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