‘I Don’t Think That They’re Intentionally Getting It Wrong’ Facebook CEO Says of Holocaust Deniers
Facebook CEO Mark Zuckerberg, recently under fire for his company’s part in the Cambridge Analytica scandal that helped place Trump in the White House and for allowing “fake news” to take root on the platform, is about to be under fire for remarks he gave in a just published interview.
Zuckerberg told ReCode’s co-founder Kara Swisher that he allows Holocaust denial pages to stay on Facebook because it’s not clear their intent is to “get things wrong.”
Here is that portion of the interview. Zuckerberg’s remarks are not bolded, Swisher’s are in bold type:
I’m Jewish, and there’s a set of people who deny that the Holocaust happened.
Yes, there’s a lot.
I find that deeply offensive. But at the end of the day, I don’t believe that our platform should take that down because I think there are things that different people get wrong. I don’t think that they’re intentionally getting it wrong, but I think-
In the case of the Holocaust deniers, they might be, but go ahead.
It’s hard to impugn intent and to understand the intent. I just think, as abhorrent as some of those examples are, I think the reality is also that I get things wrong when I speak publicly. I’m sure you do. I’m sure a lot of leaders and public figures we respect do too, and I just don’t think that it is the right thing to say, “We’re going to take someone off the platform if they get things wrong, even multiple times.” What we will do is we’ll say, “Okay, you have your page, and if you’re not trying to organize harm against someone, or attacking someone, then you can put up that content on your page, even if people might disagree with it or find it offensive.” But that doesn’t mean that we have a responsibility to make it widely distributed in News Feed. I think we, actually, to the contrary-
The entire interview is important and you can read it on ReCode.
Meanwhile, on Twitter, some are making the case that something is either false or not, and if it’s false and damaging or dangerous, some suggest it should be banned:
This is insane. He’s right that there’s a huge grey area between perfect truth and pernicious lies and that policing that zone is difficult. . . but Holocaust denial isn’t in it! https://t.co/JMpt0undXx
— Michael Hobbes (@RottenInDenmark) July 18, 2018
It’s completely backwards.
The whole premise of the “marketplace of ideas” is that ideas compete and bad ideas get killed off by good ones through open debate. But things like Holocaust denial are not debates and they derive legitimacy through being able to air their hate openly
— Pwn All The Things (@pwnallthethings) July 18, 2018
If *Holocaust denial* is Zuckerberg’s chosen example of something Facebook wouldn’t police, why should anyone have confidence the company wants to deal seriously with more pedestrian kinds of misinformation?
— Alex Burns (@alexburnsNYT) July 18, 2018
There are scholars who study the history & psychology of Holocaust denial. Zuckerberg is not apparently interested in them or even aware they exist.
Holocaust denial doesn’t stem from a lack of facts. It’s not an “uninformed” opinion. It is, however, deeply corrosive to society. https://t.co/mk4wbROqwy
— Peter A. Shulman 📚 (@pashulman) July 18, 2018
To be clear, there’s no First Amendment legal issue here. @Facebook is a platform owned and run by private citizens and can choose what content to allow. It’s their choice to treat things like Holocaust denial as acceptable discourse.https://t.co/Qi7jzOKO6I
— Sahil Kapur (@sahilkapur) July 18, 2018
That Zuckerberg quote about Holocaust denial deserves to be in some kind of hall of fame for actively harmful late-capitalist idiocy
— Abraham Riesman (@abrahamjoseph) July 18, 2018
In no reasonable universe can Holocaust-denial be considered a legitimate theory.
The only people who advocate for it are antisemites; they advocate it because they believe the conspiracy theory that Jews run the world and Holocaust-denial fits into that conspiratorial worldview
— Pé Resists (@4everNeverTrump) July 18, 2018
If Holocaust denial is just a misunderstanding of facts — like people thinking Columbus proved the world was round or forgetting the dates of the 30 Years War — then there’s no reason for Jewish people to experience it as hurtful.
But we do because it’s not.
— Matthew Yglesias (@mattyglesias) July 18, 2018
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‘Real Winner’: Internet Destroys Trump for Congratulating Racist, Islamophobic, Anti-Semitic QAnon Conspiracy Theorist
President Donald Trump Wednesday morning congratulated a QAnon conspiracy theorist who has racist, Islamophobic and anti-Semitic beliefs for winning her Republican Congressional primary. Marjorie Taylor Greene is now the GOP’s candidate to face Democrat Kevin van Ausdal in November.
“Congratulations to future Republican Star Marjorie Taylor Greene on a big Congressional primary win in Georgia against a very tough and smart opponent. Marjorie is strong on everything and never gives up – a real WINNER!” Trump tweeted.
Politico published a video of Greene making vile and offensive remarks, but Georgia Republican voters cast their ballots for her anyway. The remarks were so offensive Politico had to place a disclaimer at the beginning to ensure viewers knew they did not endorse her hatred.
Watch: We uncovered hours of videos of Marjorie Taylor Greene, a leading GOP congressional candidate in Georgia, expressing racist, Islamophobic and anti-Semitic views. https://t.co/y6oZzomnlR pic.twitter.com/DKv8sCPjrK
— POLITICO (@politico) June 18, 2020
In the video Greene “suggested that Muslims do not belong in government; thinks black people ‘are held slaves to the Democratic Party’; called George Soros, a Jewish Democratic megadonor, a Nazi; and said she would feel ‘proud’ to see a Confederate monument if she were black because it symbolizes progress made since the Civil War,” Politico reported.
She also insists the Quran cannot be used to swear elected officials into office. “No. You have to be sworn in on the Bible,” she says, which is false.
Her QAnon conspiracy theories make her an even less suitable candidate for the U.S. House of Representatives.
Many condemned Trump on Twitter for endorsing Greene – take a look:
She called Pelosi a "bitch" last night. She said Q, from the QAnon conspiracy theory, is a "patriot." She called George Soros a "Nazi" (he is Jewish and survived Nazi-occupied Hungary.) And she claimed there was "an Islamic invasion into our government." https://t.co/BcE7taqBm8 https://t.co/7qefoXzGRa
— Marshall Cohen (@MarshallCohen) August 12, 2020
Trump embraces Marjorie Taylor Green, a believer in Qanon, a conspiracy theory that asserts liberal Hollywood actors and Democratic politicians are running an international child sex-trafficking ring and Trump is the only one who can stop them https://t.co/iMuK4xZTLd
— Judd Legum (@JuddLegum) August 12, 2020
Wow. Donald Trump just endorsed a racist, anti-Semitic QAnon supporter. Even some members of the GOP House leadership are going to be uncomfortable with this.
— Russell Drew (@RussOnPolitics) August 12, 2020
QANon supporter with some “racially charged” language in her recent past who threw out reporter from victory party who tweeted she called Pelosi a “bitch” and who is endorsed by Charlie Kirk. That about covers it.
— Matthew Boedy (@MatthewBoedy) August 12, 2020
I grew up across the street from Marjorie my entire childhood.
After watching her videos I’m now wondering what her family was saying about my black family, my Vietnamese next door neighbor, and my Korean next door neighbor.
— Carlos Whittaker (@loswhit) August 12, 2020
Trump is saying a QAnon candidate who thinks there's a 'deep state' of child-molesting Satanist traitors and has made racist, anti-Semitic and Islamophobic comments in the past is a "future Republican Star"
So, that tracks. https://t.co/7bACpi4Mbk
— Lis Power (@LisPower1) August 12, 2020
If crackpot Q conspiracy theories are everything then, yes, she is strong on everything.
— Inigo Montoya Resists 🏳️🌈 🌊 🇺🇸 🌈 ❄️ (@IMontoyaResists) August 12, 2020
The president of the United States, giving Georgia's racist conspiracy nut a hearty welcome to the Republican mainstream. https://t.co/WJNGYIomnF
— Jay Bookman (@jaysbookman) August 12, 2020
‘Propaganda Machine’ Kayleigh McEnany Blasted for False Claim Trump Has ‘Great Record’ on LGBTQ Issues
White House press secretary Kayleigh McEnany is under fire for claiming President Donald Trump has a “great record” on LGBTQ issues.
Trump, who is the most anti-LGBTQ president in modern history, has been rolling back hard-won protections for LGBTQ people in all areas of government, since taking office three and a half years ago.
McEnany was asked about Trump’s ban on transgender service members, which he announced via Twitter on July 26, 2017, as the Washington Blade’s Chris Johnson reminded her Monday. She did not have much to say and appeared to respond by reading from prepared notes on a list of items.
“I haven’t talked to him about that specific policy, but this president is proud that in 2019 we launched a global initiative to end the criminalization of homosexuality throughout the world,” McEnany told Johnson in response to his question about the ban on transgender service members.
“He has a great record when it comes to the LGBT community. The Trump administration eased a ban on blood donations from gay and bisexual men and he launched a plan to end the AIDS epidemic by 2030, so we’re very proud of our achievements.”
That “global initiative to end the criminalization of homosexuality throughout the world” is non-existent and has not resulted in any actions or changes in policy or law in any other country. When Trump was first asked about it he said he did not know anything about it.
The easing of the antiquated blood ban was only in response to the coronavirus pandemic. And the “plan to end the AIDS epidemic by 2030” is just a plan. 18 months after it was announced there’s little evidence it was put into action.
Meanwhile, just last month Trump announced he was “surprised” the Supreme Court ruled against his administration when it found anti-LGBTQ workplace discrimination is illegal, because the court “was supposed to be in our favor.”
Also last month Trump’s HHS finalized a move to roll back healthcare protections for transgender people, calling them “unnecessary.”
Just weeks ago Trump’s Dept. of Housing and Urban Development moved to allow taxpayer-funded shelter providers to ban transgender people experiencing homelessness, citing religious rights.
Last year the Trump administration rolled back an Obama-era rule banning adoption agencies from discriminating against LGBTQ people, then bragged about it.
The list goes on and on.
The Trump campaign promoted McEnany’s false claim on social media.
— Team Trump (Text TRUMP to 88022) (@TeamTrump) July 13, 2020
Many have expressed outrage, especially since so many of the Trump administration’s attacks against LGBTQ people are often major life issues.
— Jan Taylor (@taylorjan1) July 14, 2020
Yall banned the T from the military.
And allowed for doctors to refuse treatment to the community.
So this whole tweet is a lie. https://t.co/qun4zAV9Vx
— Timmmmm (@hvhtim) July 14, 2020
SO YOU EASED A BAN ON GETTING FREE BLOOD. NAME ONE OTHER THING YOU HAVE DONE FOR LGBT+??? https://t.co/4Uui1hlVqw
— Carah von funk (@carahbubs) July 14, 2020
Ms. McEnany, your lies haven't convinced a single LGBT person. We're too well informed about the actual facts. Go back to your right-wing Evangelical base. They're the ones who will vote for you.
— Davidl61 (@Davidl61) July 14, 2020
— Sam Wise 🏳️🌈 (@SamWiseLGBT) July 13, 2020
He has done everything to
TO GROW….JUST LIKE
HIS HATE GROUPS. https://t.co/3na2d4pqRE
— Twisted AnklezResist (@AnklezTwisted) July 14, 2020
Very pro LGBT that they ban them from serving. McEnany you’re even worse than Sarah Sanders with your shilling and lies. I miss the days when Sean Spicer was press secretary and lied about the size of a crowd(sarcasm). https://t.co/lDZ6BbLAhA
— Josh (@Zomboshy) July 13, 2020
Trump Plans to End Coronavirus Task Force: NYT
Amid multiple projections of coronavirus deaths about to “nearly double” to 3000 per day and new infections to increase about ten-fold President Donald Trump is set to end the Coronavirus Task Force. What started as a January 31 executive order for public relations purposes that did almost nothing until the death toll exploded became a highly-watched group.
But for Trump, who craves the spotlight, its members’ high-profiles have become problematic.
“Trump administration officials are telling members of the coronavirus task force that the White House plans to wind down the operation and it’s not clear whether any other group might replace it,” The New York Times is now reporting.
NCRM earlier today in an exclusive reported that Vice President Mike Pence has “slacked off” on holding the coronavirus Task Force meetings. He led 24 in March, just 18 in April, and only two last week.
The coronavirus pandemic is far from over. On Monday the nation saw a new milestone set, with the death toll breaking 70,000 people.
This is a breaking news and developing story. Details may change. This story will be updated, and NCRM will likely publish follow-up stories on this news. Stay tuned and refresh for updates.
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