WATCH: Director of Anti-LGBT Group Just Can’t – or Won’t – Say Which Restroom Trans Woman Should Use
During Seven Minute Interview Family Research Council Legal and Policy Issues Director Cannot Bring Himself to Say ‘Women’s Room’ or ‘Men’s Room’
Travis Weber cannot or will not say which public restroomÂ Jennifer Finney Boylan should use. Professor Boylan is a transgender woman who on “Hardball” Friday night said her birth certificate identifies her as a man. Weber, theÂ Director of the Center for Religious Liberty at Family Research Council, sat before MSNBC’s Chris Matthews and repeatedly refused to state specifically which restroom he thinks Boylan should use when out in public.
“Travis, tell Jenny what bathroom she should use?,” Matthews asked.
“Yeah, well, you know, I’m not sure…,” Weber responded. Weber is an attorney. He “focuses on all manner of legal and policy issues pertaining to religious freedom,” and has litigated federal civil rights cases,Â according to his FRC bio.
“Well, just answer that question,” Matthews requested.
“I think peopleÂ â€“,” Weber continued, until Matthews interrupted.
“She said she would not be comfortable, or, could cause some problem if she walked into a men’s room,” Matthews noted. “Should she walk into a men’s room?”
“I think we can do things the way we’ve done them for decades, and people can use bathrooms according to biological sex, with specific accommodation made for people who have a genuine issue,” Weber said, not answering the question.
Matthews again, interrupting, asks specifically, “What should a transgender person who identifies as a woman do, what bathroom should they go to? Just keep it simple,” Matthews again requests.
“They can use the bathroom of their biological sex except when there’s a genuine issue and an accommodation can be made.”
“What does that mean?,” Matthews asked.
Mentioning gender dysphoria, Weber then launched into a claim that “the law allows for people to show up and say, ‘My gender expression is the opposite sex.’ This allows for abuse and all of a sudden you have a lot of problems.”
Weber then incorrectlyÂ claimed, “a boy who says I’m expressing myself as a girlÂ â€“ locker room’s open to them, under the Obama decree today.”
He went on to insist that “boys around the country” will be saying, “I’m a girl today.”
Asked when it’s ever happened, Weber first claimed “it’s happening in school districts out in the mid-West.” He then described a lawsuit in the Chicago area where girls and their families are suing because actual transgender studentsÂ â€“ not boys who say,Â “I’m a girl today”Â â€“ are using the restrooms of their gender identity.
Asked where a boy has abused the rights of transgender dignity, Weber ultimately pointed to a gender neutral policy in the University of Toronto, in Canada, where “a guy was in there filming the girls.”Â
Which, again, has nothing to do with transgender people or policies.
Boylan chastisedÂ him for having to go outside the country to try to find a legitimate example of a problem, which he was unable to do even then.
“This is a solution in search of a problem,” Boylan said, of laws like North Carolina’s HB2, which bans trangender people from using public restrooms that correspond with their gender identity.
After Boylan asked Weber and others to “open your hearts,” and offer “the respect and dignity that we all deserve as citizens of this country,” Matthews again asked Weber the question he cannot and will not answer.
“What should Jenny do if she’s visiting North Carolina? Should she go to the men’s room?”
“Well,” Weber begins, as he is literally squirming.
“You’re dodging the toughest question,” Matthews observes. “What do you want people to behave like? What should she do? She should go to the men’s room?”
After Matthews’ repeated asking, Weber says, “She can use an accommodation bathroom that’s a single-use bathroom that would protect the privacy interests…”
“That’s gobbledegook,” Boylan responds. “That means nothing.” She says because she has an “M” on her birth certificate, forcing her to use the men’s room makes her unsafe.
“Transgender people do not deserve to be made more unsafe,” she continued, saying that transgender people are a “small but unfairly maligned group of people. We wish to be left alone. We wish to be treated like anybody else. And that’s what the Obama administration’s policy does.”
Weber said he agrees with Boylan about being treated with love and respect, but by the end of the interview, he still would not sayÂ â€“ or could not sayÂ â€“ which restroom she she use.
It should be noted that Weber’s employer, theÂ Family Research Council, is a certified anti-gay hate group. On Friday, FRC president Tony Perkins called for President Barack Obama to be impeached for directing all public schools to allow transgender students to use the restroom that correspondsÂ with their gender identity.
Kathy Griffin weighed in after the show:
Hey @JennyBoylan Great job on #hardball! You’re so smart & unpacked the issue perfectly! #LGBT @MSNBC
â€” Kathy Griffin (@kathygriffin) May 14, 2016
More responses via Twitter:
@JennyBoylan @hardball I appreciate you using the word LOVE, several times. It makes people like that worm, Travis Weber, uncomfortable!
â€” auntdeb (@losethemittens) May 13, 2016
I’ve never known any boys who were tempted to say they were girls so they could use a girls’ bathroom. You’d get beat up, by boys. #hardball
â€” John Brosnan (@birdflyoverlake) May 13, 2016
@jennyboylan @hardball Excellent job tonight, Miss Boylan. Bravo!
â€” Richard Kalnins (@RichardKalnins) May 14, 2016
Travis Weber, of the #FamilyResearchCouncil was _such_ a weasel regarding “bathroom laws,” on @hardball. Wouldn’t answer a simple question.
â€” Rachel Martin (@RMartinWriting) May 14, 2016
Oh BRAVO!!!! Just freakn BRAVO!! Family Council Travis Weber is shamed by transgender Jennifer Boylan. Zap! #hardball@JennyBoylan
â€” KevinPatrickHodgkiss (@KPHodgkiss) May 13, 2016
@hardball Travis Weber did a horrible job trying to prove his point. Couldn’t even answer the questions #ChrisMatthews
â€” Nikki Johnson (@BlkDeva) May 13, 2016
@hardball_chris to Travis Weber of Family Research Council: “should Jenny go to your men’s room?” Travis: blink blink.
â€” Eva Murphy (@EvaSMurphy) May 13, 2016
Jennifer Finney Boylan said it so best: they just want 2b left alone or at least be treated w/love. Stop this nonsense. #LGBT #hardball #p2
â€” Sheree (@shereedre10) May 14, 2016
Image: Screenshot via MSNBC
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RIGHT WING EXTREMISM
Former GOP Lawmaker Trashes Rep. Clay Higgins for ‘Cosplay Ridiculousness That Actually Could Spark Violence’
Appearing on MSNBC early Saturday morning, former Rep. Denver Riggleman (R-VA) lashed out at a fellow Republican who responded to Donald Trump’s latest indictment with what appears to be a call for another insurrection.
After the announcement that the former president will be formally indicted by the Department of Justice in Florida next week, Rep. Clay Higgins (R-LA) fired off a tweet stating: “President Trump said he has been summoned to appear at the Federal Courthouse in Miami on Tuesday, at 3 PM. This is a perimeter probe from the oppressors. Hold. rPOTUS has this. Buckle up. 1/50K know your bridges. Rock steady calm. That is all.”
Agreeing with militia expert Jeff Sharlet, who wrote, “This isn’t a metaphor. This isn’t slow civil war. This is a congressman calling for the real thing. I think this is scary as hell,” Riggleman piled on.
Speaking with MSNBC host Katie Phang, he stated, “I know Clay, I’ve served with him back in 2019 to 2021. This is so irresponsible.”
“But it’s also almost a cosplay ridiculousness that actually could spark violence with people that maybe are too ignorant to understand, or absolutely understand what a Clay Higgins is putting out there,” he suggested.
“I think at this point, he probably needs to retract that or delete it, and to apologize for such ridiculous language,” he continued. “Because it makes real military individuals almost cringe. It’s so cringeworthy that I do believe that we have to have a point in this country where their saying rise up against this hyperbolic bulls–t.”
“I think, for me as a former military person, it’s embarrassing to see somebody, especially an elected representative, it’s just embarrassing to see somebody tweet something like that, ” he added.
Watch below or at the link:
‘We Are Not Going to Stand for It’: McCarthy Defends Trump – Vows to Use Jim Jordan’s Committee to Target Attorney General
The Republican Speaker of the House, Kevin McCarthy, barely hours after the U.S. Dept. of Justice unsealed a 49-page, 37-felony count criminal indictment charging Donald Trump with violations of seven federal laws, decided to double-down on his defense of the ex-president by threatening to target the Attorney General of the United States and declaring House Republicans “are not going to stand for” the criminal prosecution of the ex-president.
McCarthy went on Fox News Friday afternoon, saying “this judgment is wrong by this DOJ. That they treated President Trump differently than they treat others. And it didn’t have to be this way. This is going to disrupt this nation because it goes to the core of equal justice for all – which is not being seen today and we are not going to stand for it.”
McCarthy: This is going to disrupt this nation because it goes to the core of equal justice for all which is not being seen today and we are not going to stand for it. pic.twitter.com/B0Z1c81yOn
— Acyn (@Acyn) June 9, 2023
McCarthy, a California Republican who cobbled together a tenuous pact with far-right extremists to win his speakership on the 15th try, is incorrect on the facts.
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The Dept. of Justice does not pass judgment, the courts – in this case a jury, does. The Dept. of Justice did not treat Trump “differently,” except to give him multiple opportunities over an approximately two-year period to return national secrets he allegedly unlawfully removed, retained, and refused to return, even after being served with a subpoena and a search warrant.
What McCarthy does not do is claim Trump’s actions were legal or reasonable, because the damning indictment makes clear they are not.
Later, McCarthy took to Twitter to effectively declare he would target the Attorney General of the United States, Merrick Garland, who – for nearly a quarter century – served as a federal appeals court judge and chief judge before being nominated to serve at Main Justice.
(Garland was nominated to the U.S. Supreme Court in 2016 but then-Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell refused to allow the confirmation to move process forward.)
“Many officials, from Secretary Hillary Clinton to then-Senator Joe Biden, handled classified info after their time in office & were never charged,” tweeted the Speaker, not just wrongly, but grossly and dishonestly characterizing the allegations against Trump.
“Now Biden’s leading political opponent is indicted—a double standard that must be investigated,” he again dishonestly declared.
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President Joe Biden had nothing to do with the decision of the Special Counsel to ask a Florida grand jury for an indictment. Nor was the President even told before Trump was indicted – like every American, President Biden learned of the Trump indictment through news reports. Attorney General Garland did not sign off on the decision to ask a grand jury for an indictment.
McCarthy, meanwhile, vowed House Judiciary Committee Chairman Jim Jordan and the House Republicans “will get answers.”
“Merrick Garland: the American people elected us to conduct oversight of you. We will fulfill that obligation,” he declared.
McCarthy made those remarks atop a Friday letter from Jordan to Garland that begins: “The Biden Department of Justice is reportedly about to indict a former president and President Biden’s chief rival in the upcoming presidential election.”
“According to reports, the Department will indict President Donald Trump, despite declining to indict former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton for her mishandling of classified information and failing to indict President Biden for his mishandling of classified information.” (The letter does not mention former Vice President Mike Pence, who is not being charged for his mishandling of classified information.”
On Thursday a defiant and angry McCarthy, after Trump was indicted, wrote: “Today is indeed a dark day for the United States of America.”
“It is unconscionable for a President to indict the leading candidate opposing him,” he said, which is egregiously false – Biden did not indict Trump, nor did his Attorney General or even Special Counsel; a grand jury of Florida citizens did.
“Joe Biden kept classified documents for decades,” McCarthy charged, which is a legitimate claim and there is a current federal investigation underway. The difference is Biden did not take the documents, did not know they were among his papers, and immediately upon learning they were, contacted the National Archives to arrange their return.
Donald Trump, we now know, according to the indictment, packed some of the boxes himself, not only refused to return the documents but hid them from the Dept. of Justice and National Archives, lied about them, and kept them at times in public areas of his Florida resort and residence.
“I, and every American who believes in the rule of law,” McCarthy wrong declared, “stand with President Trump against this grave injustice. House Republicans will hold this brazen weaponization of power accountable.”
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In response to McCarthy’s remarks, U.S. Rep. Eric Swalwell (D-CA) posted a photo from the DOJ’s indictment of Trump.
“These are the secrets that protect our troops. And Kevin McCarthy thinks it’s perfectly OK that Donald Trump stole and stored them like this,” he charged.
These are the secrets that protect our troops. And Kevin McCarthy thinks it’s perfectly OK that Donald Trump stole and stored them like this. pic.twitter.com/oFid5ViCdr
— Rep. Eric Swalwell (@RepSwalwell) June 9, 2023
Watch the video and see Rep. Swalwell’s tweet above or at this link.
RIGHT WING EXTREMISM
‘Fail’: Critics Blast Youngkin for Claim Trump Is a Victim of ‘Politically Motivated Actions’ Just Like ‘Parents in Virginia’
Virginia Republican Governor Glenn Youngkin, a possible 2024 presidential candidate, is under fire after remarks he made Friday morning defending Donald Trump after the ex-president was indicted on what has now been revealed to be 37 federal felony counts related to the Dept. of Justice’s criminal probe into his handling of hundreds of classified and top secret documents.
Youngkin Friday suggested that the prosecution of Donald Trump, which includes Espionage Act charges, conspiracy charges, and obstruction of justice charges among others, was just like the alleged prosecution of parents.
Gov. Youngkin, often wrongly portrayed in the media as a moderate Republican, may have been attempting to invoke the false yet viral far-right claim that Attorney General Merrick Garland was investigating and prosecuting parents for merely speaking at school board meetings. That claim came about after Garland issued a letter asking the Bureau to come up with strategies to address violence and violent threats directed at school board members. Some who have promoted that erroneous claim, including Speaker of the House Kevin McCarthy, have falsely claimed Garland called ordinary parents “terrorists.”
On Friday, Youngkin tweeted about the Trump indictment, saying, “These charges are unprecedented and it’s a sad day for our country, especially in light of what clearly appears to be a two-tiered justice system where some are selectively prosecuted, and others are not.”
“Parents in Virginia know firsthand what it’s like to be targeted by politically motivated actions,” he added.
“Regardless of your party, this undermines faith in our judicial system at exactly the time when we should be working to restore that trust,” Youngkin concluded, remarks that themselves could undermine faith in our judicial system.
Days before his election, Youngkin also promoted the false Garland claim, even after the Attorney General that same day explained to the Senate Judiciary Committee his letter directed the FBI to investigate not ordinary parents, but people who were organizing attacks on school board members.
Candidate Youngkin appeared on Fox News in October 0f 2021 (video below) and falsely told Tucker Carlson, “What happened today was, of course, Merrick Garland doubled down. He said, ‘No, I’m absolutely maintaining my position that the DOJ and the FBI should be investigating parents.’ Parents who are trying to stand up for their children when there’s been a sexual assault in a school bathroom. We have a board of education and in Loudoun County that tried to hide it from parents, hide it from hiding from the public, and they move this child into another school and then that child again committed another sexual assault.”
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Youngkin made education and “parents’ rights” a campaign issue when he ran in 2021. His opponent, Democrat Terry McAuliffe, during a debate said, “I don’t think parents should be telling schools what they should teach.” While experts claim it didn’t swing the election for Youngkin, it at least established him nationally as focused on education and “parental rights,” a mantle Florida Republican Gov. Ron DeSantis quickly co-opted.
The Washington Post, alternatively, on Friday focused on Youngkin’s “two-tiered justice” remarks, reporting: “Youngkin’s suggestion that a rich White man — he didn’t actually name Trump — had been victimized by a ‘two-tiered justice system’ drew fierce pushback, with many critics noting the governor’s opposition to the notion that racial and ethnic minorities face systemic racism. The Republican won the governorship on a promise to purge ‘critical race theory’ from K-12 classrooms, though it was not part of any curriculum. Once in office, Youngkin launched a tip line for parents to report on teachers discussing ‘inherently divisive’ concepts in schools.”
Youngkin, who technically is a “populist conservative” but swings far-right on social issues, was quickly chastised for his tweet.
“You know what you are saying is wrong and incendiary. Shame on you,” declared former CIA officer John Sipher. “These charges stemmed from a grand [jury] of Florida citizens. Trump will have access to a Fair process. But instead you spread information to anger and confuse people. You are stoking misinformation and violence.”
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MSNBC’s Chris Hayes took a different approach, mocking the Virginia Republican.
“It’s the pivot to ‘Parents in Virginia…’ in the third sentence that elevates this to art,” he wrote.
“The moderate, genial suburban dad in a fleece vest suggests that the only way to restore confidence in the justice system is to place Trump above the law,” wrote The Washington Post’s Greg Sargent, also mocking Youngkin.
“Youngkin is pro-Trump, as usual–even though Virginia voted heavily AGAINST Trump in both 2016 and 2020. When it comes to Donald Trump, Liz Cheney has more courage in her pinky than Youngkin does in his whole body,” observed Larry Sabato, the well-known professor of politics, political analyst, and founder and director of University of Virginia’s Center for Politics.
The vice president of research for the liberal super PAC American Bridge 21st Century, Liz Charboneau, called Youngkin’s tweet an “especially stupid statement when a large portion of your state has a security clearance, handles classified documents, and has never been charged under the espionage act.”
Conservative Mona Charen, a syndicated columnist and Policy Editor at The Bulwark: “So here’s our answer as to whether Youngkin is a man of character. Fail.”
The Lincoln Project’s Michelle Kinney tweeted, “Youngkin twisting himself into pretzel to weave a vaguebook repudiation of Trump indictment and his weirdo anti vaxx anti trans ‘parents rights’ obsession into one tweet. It reads like Veep dialogue.”
Historian, professor, Holocaust expert Dr. Waitman Wade Beorn tweeted, “Hey dude, the Pentagon is literally in your state. Maybe stop in and have a chat…”
Watch the video above or at this link.
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