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Here’s Everything You Need To Know About The Duggars’ Disastrous Fox News Interview

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Jim Bob and Michelle Duggar Wednesday night delivered a disastrous interview full of distortions, deflection, and defense of their parenting decisions and their son Josh, over their daughters. 

After weeks surrounded by the scandal of the news their eldest son Josh sexually molested five young girls when he was a teen, and four of them were his sisters, Jim Bob and Michelle Duggar sat down with Fox News anchor Megyn Kelly for an hour-long interview that aired Wednesday night.

Many had hoped that Kelly, who has gone outside the Fox box at times to perform actual feats of journalism, would deliver an interview that was not merely an opportunity for the Duggars to whitewash their actions related to this family tragedy, but to get them to see and admit their mistakes and hypocrisy.

That did not happen, in part, because Kelly was unprepared, in part because, as she has made clear publicly, she believes the Duggars have been treated unfairly, and in part because the Duggars are unable or unwilling to actually see the reality that many Americans see.

What did we learn?

The Duggar parents confirmed, for the first time in public, that Josh Duggar molested four of their girls, and a babysitter.

“He said he was just curious about girls and he had gone in and just basically touched them over their clothes while they were sleeping; they didn’t even know he had done it,” Jim Bob told Kelly.

But he later added, “This was like touching somebody over their clothes. There were a couple instances where he touched them under their clothes,” Jim Bob said. “This was not rape or anything like that,” Duggar insisted.

The Duggars told Kelly that they only learned of the molestations because Josh told them, and insisted they sat down with each girl and the girls had no idea what had happened.

“And I think we had one ray of hope that Josh had a tender conscience and he was the one that came and shared on his own, even though the others really didn’t know anything of his wrongdoing,” Michelle said.

The Duggars said that because they knew Josh’s heart, they at first felt they could handle the problem.

“The ray of hope was that Josh had came and told us and that his heart was still soft. Because we wouldn’t have known about any of these things if he hadn’t had came and told us,” Jim Bob said.

But Josh Duggar repeatedly molested the young girls.

“And so there was a couple more times he came and told us what he had done, and we were just devastated,” Jim Bob said.

The Duggars claim “all of our children received professional counseling, including Josh.”

Jim Bob claimed they sent them to an “accredited professional counselor.” It’s unclear what the accreditation was – were they licensed? – and what type of counselor they were sent to. Social worker? Psychologist? Psychiatrist? The Duggars have said at least Josh was sent to a Christian counselor.

They also said they believe Josh is not a pedophile, and that, according to Jim Bob, “the legal definition is 16 and up for an adult preying on a child. He was a child preying on a child.”

The Duggar boys and girls aren’t allow to play alone with each other now.

“Even since then, that I think, ‘You know what, we don’t let boys babysit. They don’t play hide and seek together, two don’t go off and hide,'” Michelle said. “There are just a lot of things that we’ve put in place. We said, ‘You’re not alone in a room with someone else. Always be out visible, and, you know, little ones don’t sit on big boys’ laps or people that you don’t know or even family members, unless it’s your daddy. So we just—there’s boundaries that we’ve learned.'”

Jim Bob Duggar tried to cover up the hypocrisy of Michelle’s anti-trans robocall last summer.

He wrongly claimed she used the word “pedophile.” She didn’t, she did say transgender people are “males with past child predator convictions.”

The Duggars think they’re criticized because they’re Christians and being persecuted for their religious beliefs.

“Do you think the backlash has been greater because people object to who you are and what you stand for?,” Kelly asked.

“I think some out there do,” Michelle replied, with her husband Jim Bob nodding in agreement.

“Do you think your Christian beliefs are at issue here?,” Kelly asked.

“Well,” Jim Bob answered, “I think, as people on the outside think, ‘Well, Christians are supposed to be perfect, you’re supposed to live this perfect life.’ No, you know what? All of us as Christians, we struggle every day.”

“I know that every one of us have done things wrong,” Michelle said. “That’s why Jesus came. I feel like this is more about… there is an agenda and there is people that are purposing to try to bring things out and twisting them to hurt and slander.”

 

Image: Screenshot via Fox News 
Quotes via Gawker and the Washington Post

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Second-generation New York real estate heir Donald Trump, Jr. is caught up in yet another hunting scandal.

Utah hunting guide Wade Lemon is facing five years in prison for baiting a bear that was killed by Trump, Jr. on May 18, 2018, The Salt Lake Tribune reported Saturday.

But the New York developer may not have been familiar enough with western hunting to know about the felony poaching.

“Trump Jr. is not named in a recent filing against Lemon, but the DNR confirmed his identity as the person named in the felony complaint as Lemon’s “client” on the hunt. Prosecutors have indicated there was no evidence showing Trump Jr. would have known about the alleged baiting that went on during the hunt,” the newspaper reported. “Without naming Trump Jr., Davis County Attorney Troy Rawlings said the hunter in the case ‘was actually a victim and a now a possible witness in a fraudulent scheme to lead the hunter to believe it was actually a legitimate Wild West hunting situation.'”

Trump, Jr. posted pictures of his hunting trip to Instagram.

“On Sept. 3, 2020, The Utah Investigative Journalism Project requested files on closed investigations against Wade Lemon Hunting. The DNR provided files on cases dating back to 2009 except for the case on the 2018 Trump Jr. hunt. DNR had decided to reopen that case and denied the records request, stating the release would interfere with the now ‘open’ investigation,” the newspaper reported. “DNR turned the case over to the Utah Attorney General’s Office. Utah Attorney General Reyes has close ties to Trump, having campaigned for him and even flying to Nevada to investigate the election results after Trump’s defeat at the polls and signed on to a lawsuit claiming ‘unlawful election results.’ The Attorney General’s Office reinvestigated the case for months, then handed it off to the Davis County Attorney’s Office to screen for filing of charges.”

Trump, Jr.’s guided hunting trip resulted in kills of a black bear and mountain lion.

“Charging documents allege Lemon’s outfitters illegally used bait on the bear shot by Trump Jr. According to the document, a witness identified Lemon and his employees during the hunt in May 2018 and was able to identify Lemon over radio traffic, giving instructions to his employees,” the newspaper reported. “The illegal bait, ‘a pile of grain, oil and pastries’ was discovered with a trail camera pointed right on it with ‘WLH’ (for Wade Lemon Hunting) written on the side and with Lemon’s own telephone number, according to court documents. The charging documents also include evidence from a subordinate confirming Lemon had him place the bait in the location several weeks before the hunt.”

The guide Trump, Jr. hired for his hunt has been investigated before.

“Hunting guides who cater to the wealthy elite have a lot at stake in ensuring successful hunts. These companies employ hunters to scout woods, deserts, mountains and plains for the biggest game, to ensure these high-profile clients have the highest chance for a successful hunt. According to DNR, Wade Lemon Hunting has been investigated eight times for allegedly breaking the law to ensure a successful hunt, though he was not charged with a felony until Tuesday,” the newspaper explained.

The vast majority of game taken in America is from hunters who do not require a hired guide.

The former president’s eldest son has previously had scandals over killing an elephant in Africa, killing an endangered sheep in Mongolia, and killing pregnant prairie dogs in Montana.

 

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Adam Schiff Prosecutes the Case Against Ginni Thomas on MSNBC After ‘Stunning’ Revelations

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The chairman of the House Intelligence Committee offered a brutal analysis after a bombshell new report on efforts by Ginni Thomas seeking to overturn the 2020 presidential election.

“Virginia ‘Ginni’ Thomas, the conservative activist and wife of Supreme Court Justice Clarence Thomas, pressed Arizona lawmakers after the 2020 election to set aside Joe Biden’s popular-vote victory and choose “a clean slate of Electors,” according to emails obtained by The Washington Post. The emails, sent by Ginni Thomas to a pair of lawmakers on Nov. 9, 2020, argued that legislators needed to intervene because the vote had been marred by fraud,” the newspaper reported.

MSNBC’s Nicolle Wallace interviewed Rep. Adam Schiff (D-CA) for analysis.

Schiff, a former federal prosecutor who was the impeachment manager during Trump’s first trial and is a member of the House Select Committee Investigating the Jan. 6 Attack on the U.S. Capitol, was asked by Wallace if the select committee would interview Ginni Thomas.

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“There are several stunning things to me about what is publicly known and has been revealed about Ginni Thomas. Here, she is weighing in with state legislators in Arizona, seeking to get them to essentially send a bogus slate of electors, that didn’t represent who won the popular election in Arizona,” Schiff said.

He referenced legal proceedings over the subpoena of “coup memo” author John Eastman.

“And you know, the judge in California, Judge Carter and the case involving Eastman, this lawyer, describes what the former president was involved in as a criminal conspiracy.”

“That was a conspiracy to interfere with the joint session, to defraud people, and here you have the wife of a Supreme Court justice engaged in a parallel effort to get Arizona to improperly cast aside the votes of millions,” he charged. “And also to add to it, her husband, on the Supreme Court, writing a dissent in a case, arguing providing records to Congress that might have revealed those same emails.”

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“That conflict of interest just screams at you,” Schiff said.

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‘Fear-Driven Alliance’: Conservative Explains Why Far-Right CPAC ‘Opportunists’ and ‘Paranoids’ Are Meeting in Hungary

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The rise of authoritarianism and fascism growing within the Republican Party was discussed by the opening panel on MSNBC’s “The Reidout” on Friday.

Host Joy Reid noted how the Conservative Political Action Conference (CPAC) is being held in Hungary this year, which is ruled by strongman Viktor Orbán.

“They have elections, of a sort, but also hamper voters’ abilities to make informed choices and heavily control the outcome that the elections are essentially a show,” she explained. “These are the autocratic dreams of a far-right leader obsessed with solidifying a Christian monoculture and who, in 2014, declared his intention to build an illiberal new state citing China, Russia and Turkey as role models. Flash forward to today where CPAC, the once conservative gathering that is now simply a cesspool of the far-right running amok, is holding its conference in Budapest.”

For analysis, Reid interviewed conservative writer Tom Nichols.

Nichols warned “there is a nihilistic, fear-driven alliance here with a group of opportunists, and I want to get back to this issue of about Hungary, the really dangerous thing here is that some of these people believe very deeply in — in some of this stuff and yet others, and I would say people like [Tucker] Carlson and Matt Schlapp and some of the other people capering about in Budapest, don’t believe in any of this and don’t believe in anything of this other than the extension of their own personal power and wealth.

“And when you have this coalition of shallow, empty opportunists along with with a group of paranoids, basically, then you have a really dangerous movement because each side has to keep upping the ante to kind of justify why they are doing the things they are doing,” he explained.

“A lot of this is an act, but the problem is you then paint yourself into a corner… You have to start actually trying to put forward policies and carry things out that, that make you look as if you believe the things that you’re doing. And then after a while, whether it’s an act or its opportunism is no longer relevant: You have become the thing you’ve been prancing about and pretending to be,” he explained.

Watch the segment below or at this link.

 

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