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Prominent Pastors Refusing To Sign State ‘Traditional’ Marriage Licenses Because, Gays

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Different sex couples will face a growing number of pastors whom refuse to sign state-issued marriage licenses – forcing couples to be married twice. Why? The gays are getting married.

For a long time now there has been a tiny movement – on both sides of the same-sex marriage aisle – trying to get the government out of the marriage business. Some same-sex marriage advocates have said government has no business deciding who can and cannot marry, and some same-sex marriage opponents have claimed marriage was created by God and is an institution controlled by the Church.

Now, two prominent Protestant theologians are trying to start a movement of like-minded anti-gay pastors who will refuse to perform weddings that require a state-issued marriage license, because, gay people are getting liecnsed by the state and marrying. They believe that participating in a wedding in which they are agents of the state sullies them by extension, in supporting same-sex marriage.

Pastors Christopher Seitz and Ephraim Radner hope to force different-sex couples to be married twice – once in a religious ceremony they will perform, and once in a civil ceremony, should the couple choose, to obtain a legal state-issued civil marriage license.

Calling it “a perilous time,” Pastors Seitz and Radner are claiming “marriage is being fundamentally redefined, and we are ­being tested yet again.” The “yet again” refers to divorce and co-­habitation which they claim “have weakened marriage.”

“If we fail to take clear action, we risk falsifying God’s Word,” the pastors believe. “To continue with church practices that intertwine government marriage with Christian marriage will implicate the Church in a false definition of marriage.”

They’ve written the “Marriage Pledge,” which is altogether different from when anti-gay activist groups like the National Organization For Marriage and the Family Leader laughably tried to use marriage pledges as anti-gay litmus tests in the 2012 presidential elections.

“We will no longer serve as agents of the state in marriage,” signatories vow. “We will no longer sign government-provided marriage certificates. We will ask couples to seek civil marriage separately from their church-related vows and blessings. We will preside only at those weddings that seek to establish a Christian marriage in accord with the principles ­articulated and lived out from the beginning of the Church’s life.”

What would Jesus do?

 

Image: Christ blessing a marriage. Photo via Flickr
Hat tip: The Daily Caller

 

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Rumors Swirl as ‘Flight Risk’ Trump Claims FBI Took His ‘Three Passports’ – He Can Still ‘Ask for Asylum’

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Despite claiming he wants to help tamp down the anger across the country from his far-right base Donald Trump on Monday issued a statement complaining the FBI took his “three passports” when it executed a legal search warrant last week. Rumors are flying about what that might mean for his future, if true.

“Wow! In the raid by the FBI of Mar-a-Lago, they stole my three passports (one expired), along with everything else,” Trump wrote on his Truth Social platform, The Independent reports. “This is an assault on a political opponent at a level never seen before in our Country. Third World!”

The FBI has no political opponent, it is not an assault given a judge signed off on the Bureau’s actions, and “Third World” is considered a derogatory and offensive term. There is also no confirmation that Trump’s claim is correct.

Attorney Tristan Snell, who successfully prosecuted the Trump University case for the New York Attorney General’s Office, notes, “Trump is still a flight risk even without passports. He could go to NYC, to the consulate of a country that does not allow US extradition (such as Russia), and ask for asylum.”

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But freelance journalist Yashar Ali notes “as far as we know the State Department has not placed a hold on Trump’s passport (they usually do that when you owe a huge amount of tax). So he can easily go get a replacement passport if he wants. A same day passport! He has not been charged with a crime.”

“The FBI isn’t going to decide that someone who hasn’t been charged with a crime is a flight risk, that would be up to a judge,” he adds. “And passports weren’t listed on the property list.”

Democratic strategist Adam Parkhomenko just mocked the former president: “I have a passport and twitter account. Donald Trump has neither.”

READ MORE: Trump Makes False Claims About Classified Documents – And Obama

Jon Cooper, a former Draft Biden National Finance Chair offered this interesting observation: “Anyone else find it interesting that Trump looked for his passport in the first place?”

Former top FBI official Frank Figliuzzi says it’s “possible that Trump retained his red ‘government official’ passport, and a black ‘diplomatic’ passport, which he no longer has a right to. Those would be ‘government records’ seizable pursuant to the warrant.”

While Trump has not been charged with any crimes, last week, even before Trump claimed the FBI took his passports, some were saying he should have to give them up.

“Frankly speaking, Trump is a flight risk,” wrote Qasim Rashid, an attorney and human rights activist. “The judge should require he surrender his passport and his jet should be grounded.”

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Former Trump White House Legal Advisor Who Testified at J6 Hearing Subpoenaed by Federal Grand Jury

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Attorney and former senior advisor to then-President Donald Trump, Eric Herschmann, has been subpoenaed by a federal grand jury, after his explosive primetime testimony before the U.S. House Select Committee on the January 6 Attack last month.

“A federal grand jury investigating the Jan. 6 attack has subpoenaed Trump White House lawyer Eric Herschmann for documents and testimony, according to a person familiar with the matter,” Politico reports.

Herschmann, who also defended Trump as part of the first Senate impeachment trial, famously attended the “craziest meeting of the Trump presidency,” a post-election Oval Office meeting during which he allegedly told conspiracy theory promoter and Trump loyalist Patrick Byrne, “Do you even know who the fuck I am, you idiot?”

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In February of 2021, less than one month after the January 6 insurrection, Axios reported on that meeting, adding this exchange between Herschmann and Trump’s “Kraken” attorney Sidney Powell:

“Powell, fixing on Trump, continued to elaborate on a fantastical election narrative involving Venezuela, Iran, China and others. She named a county in Georgia where she claimed she could prove that [voting machine manufacturer] Dominion had illegally flipped the vote,” Axios reported. “Herschmann interrupted to point out that Trump had actually won the Georgia county in question: ‘So your theory is that Dominion intentionally flipped the votes so we could win that county?'”

Herschmann, who is also becoming known for his colorful language, says he told coup memo author and far right attorney John Eastman to “Get a great f’ing criminal defense lawyer,” on January 7, 2021, one day after the insurrection.

“He started to ask me about something dealing with Georgia, preserving something, potentially for appeal,” Herschmann says in his testimony to the U.S. House Select Committee on the January 6 Attack, NBC News reported. “And I said to him, are you out of your f’ing mind? Right? I said I only want to hear two words coming out of your mouth from now on, ‘orderly transition.’”

“Now I’m going to give you the best free legal advice you’re ever getting in your life: Get a great f’ing criminal defense lawyer. You’re gonna need it.”

During the first impeachment hearing, Herschmann argued that Trump should not be convicted by the Senate, claiming he was no threat to the nation because his approval rating was high.

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‘Should Expect to Be Indicted’: Giuliani Now Target of Georgia DA Investigation Into Efforts to Overturn Election – Report

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Rudy Giuliani is now a target of Fulton County, Georgia District Attorney Fani Willis’ grand jury investigation into efforts by Donald Trump and his allies to overturn the results of the 2020 election, according to New York Times reporter Danny Hakim.

“Rudy Giuliani has been told that he is a target of the criminal investigation in Georgia into election interference. He is scheduled to testify in Atlanta later this week,” Hakim writes.

In June, the Times reported Giuliani had “emerged as a central figure in a Georgia criminal investigation of efforts by Donald J. Trump and his allies to overturn his election loss in the state, with prosecutors questioning witnesses last week before a special grand jury about Mr. Giuliani’s appearances before state legislative panels after the 2020 vote, the witnesses said.”

READ MORE: ‘Direct Personal Knowledge’: Federal Judge Denies Lindsey Graham’s Request to Quash Subpoena Ordering Him to Testify

Last week Giuliani had tried to escape testifying, citing issues he claimed were related to travel, but The Times’ Richard Fausset, who co-wrote the June article with Hakim, reports “Giuliani’s lawyer says Rudy will definitely appear Weds before grand jury (there was talk of a 2nd doc’s note). Says attorney client privilege will be invoked re questions between Giuliani & Trump. ME: How will Rudy get here? LAWYER: ‘No comment’.”

Former federal prosecutor Renato Mariotti explains the term “target.”

“‘Target’ is a term prosecutors use to indicate that they are likely to indict someone. It has a specific meaning in this context. If Giuliani has in fact been told that he is a target of the Georgia investigation, he should expect to be indicted.”

This is a breaking news and developing story. Details may change. 

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