In post-election call NOM president says, â€˜These are not countries that look kindly on same-sex marriage”
The National Organization for Marriage is pledging to continue its efforts to ensure that companies that back same-sex marriage pay a â€œpriceâ€ in Middle Eastern countries that are hostile to gay rights.
The statements came during a NOM conference call Thursday evening, which the organization billed to its supporters as a discussion of the 2012 elections â€” which resulted in the legalization of gay marriage in three states and the defeat of a gay-marriage ban in a fourth â€” and of â€œwhatâ€™s next in the fight to defend marriage.â€
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During the call, NOMâ€™s top leaders said they needed to greatly expand their fundraising efforts. They argued that Mitt Romney should have focused more on the same-sex marriage issue, and they blamed Karl Rove for allegedly pushing Republicans and outside groups to focus solely on economic issues.
NOM also suggested that opponents of same-sex marriage would argue in court that Tuesdayâ€™s election results were evidence that gays and lesbians do not constitute a â€œsuspect classâ€ and that the Defense of Marriage Act should therefore not be overturned.
The American Independent obtained an invitation to the conference call and dialed in.
During the call, one participant cited Starbucks, which endorsed gay marriage legalization in Washington, and General Mills, which spoke out against the proposed gay marriage ban in Minnesota. The participant asked what could be done â€œto stop the wave of corporate sponsorship of gay marriage.â€
NOM President Brian Brown responded by saying that NOM was targeting the international business of companies that support same-sex marriage such as Starbucks, which NOM also hit with a national boycott effort this year. Brown said the aim is to make these companiesâ€™ political stances known in countries in the Middle East and elsewhere that generally do not support same-sex marriage, or homosexuality in general.
â€œTheir international outreach is where we can have the most effect,â€ Brown said. â€œSo for example, in Qatar, in the Middle East, weâ€™ve begun working to make sure that thereâ€™s some price to be paid for this. These are not countries that look kindly on same-sex marriage. And this is where Starbucks wants to expand, as well as India. So we have done some of this; weâ€™ve got to do a lot more.â€
â€œIt takes money to go up against someone like Starbucks,â€ Brown continued, noting that NOMâ€™s resources had been spread thin. â€œI mean, weâ€™ve got 50,000 people whoâ€™ve said, â€˜Weâ€™re no longer going to purchase Starbucks products,â€™ but thatâ€™s the tip of the iceberg. Has it had some effect? I think so, but itâ€™s nowhere near enough. An example has to be made of some of these companies if weâ€™re going to get this sort of tidal wave of support for same-sex marriage to stop.â€
Earlier this year, NOM announced that it was taking â€œDump Starbucksâ€ campaign â€œinternational.â€ In aÂ statementÂ at the time, Brown said that â€œDumpStarbucks.com online ads will also start running in Egypt, Beijing, Hong Kong, the Yunnan region of China, United Arab Emirates, Bahrain, Oman and Kuwait.â€
â€œWhat happens in Seattle wonâ€™t to stay in Seattle,â€ Brown said at the time. â€œBy making gay marriage core to his brand, Starbucks CEO Howard Schulz [sic] is telling millions of customers and partners who support traditional marriage in the Middle East, China, South America and North America that they arenâ€™t truly part of the Starbucks community.â€
The theme of the call Thursday was that the fight is not over, which is something NOM has been stressing in the media since Tuesdayâ€™s election. Both Brown and NOM national political director Frank Schubert waved away the notion that the marriage equality wins signal that Americas now favor same-sex marriage â€” they said these were simply liberal states where gay marriage advocates drastically outspent gay marriage foes and won by slim margins.
â€œThe most important, you know, reality is that our work has gotten harder, but we are not defeated,â€ Brown said. â€œThese are, as I said, four difficult states. We will have more fights, we will have more wins, but weâ€™re going to need to be able to match the other side. Weâ€™re not going to be able to win in these sort of states being outspent in the way that we were.â€
Looking to the future, Brown warned supporters of upcoming marriage fights in Delaware, Illinois, and Rhode Island, and of potential Supreme Court decisions concerning the constitutionality of Californiaâ€™s Proposition 8, and the fate of the Defense of Marriage Act.
Brown said he believes the marriage equality wins will actually hurt gay-marriage advocatesâ€™ arguments in cases involving DOMA â€œbecause one of the arguments of the other side is that gays and lesbians are a suspect class, and that means that thereâ€™s some level of political powerlessness. That clearly is not the case.â€
â€œI think that on one level, the fact that we lost in these states may actually help us win in the Supreme Court,â€ Brown said. â€œAlso, for someone like Justice [Anthony] Kennedy â€” who has said in the past, has not wanted the court to be too far ahead of public opinion â€” the reality that the majority of states have voted with us, but recently some states have voted to redefine marriage underscores the idea that the federal government doesnâ€™t need to act here, that the states are dealing with this on their own, and the federal government shouldnâ€™t bypass the democratic process right in the middle.â€
Schubert repeatedly said that â€œmarriage remains a winning issueâ€ and blamed Mitt Romneyâ€™s campaign and the larger GOP campaign for failing to talk enough about same-sex marriage. He suggested that if the whole country had voted on the issue Tuesday, same-sex marriage would have been opposed by â€œ65 percent of the vote.â€
He said this assumption was based on the fact that on average â€œmarriage outpaced the GOP ticketsâ€ and also based on aÂ national Election Day surveyÂ NOM released Friday. That survey, which was conducted by conservative pollster Kellyanne Conwayâ€™s Polling Group, found that â€œ60% of Americans who voted in the election favor marriage being the union of one man and one woman.â€
By contrast,Â national exit polls from this yearâ€™s election found that 49 percent of polled voters said same-sex marriage should be legal in their states, compared to 46 of polled voters who said it should be illegal.
NOM: Karl Roveâ€™s economic issues strategy was a â€˜false bill of goodsâ€™
Both Brown and Schubert made it clear that NOMâ€™s immediate goal is to raise more money. They attributed their recent losses to the fact that they were outspent by gay marriage supporters.
â€œ[W]eâ€™re spread thin, and part of the story of this election is, you know, we tried to fight four fights all at once right after putting all our money into North Carolina, and the other side spread us out,â€ Brown said.
In aÂ press releaseÂ Wednesday, Brown said that NOM had contributed â€œover $5.5 millionâ€ but that the organization was outspent â€œby a margin of at least four-to-one.â€ On Thursdayâ€™s call, Schubert said NOM had raised a little more than $10 million and that marriage equality supporters had spent about $33 million.
â€œWeâ€™ve got to attract the support of economic conservatives, who are primarily interested in issues other than marriage, and have them see how itâ€™s important that we operate as a coalition, as our opponents do,â€ Schubert said. â€œWeâ€™ve got to take their model and apply it to ourselves. Weâ€™ve got to do a better job at raising major gifts; weâ€™ve got to do a better job at raising smaller-dollar gifts.â€
Brown agreed that the conservatives focused too closely on economic issues during this election. He called out political strategist Karl Rove, whose Crossroads groups wereÂ reportedlyÂ the largest outside spending organizations of the 2012 election.
â€œI think that the Republican Party in general was sold a false bill of goods this election, and the notion that we should only talk about economic issues gained the day,â€ Brown said. â€œThis was really sort of Karl Roveâ€™s strategy. There was hundreds of millions of dollars raised for outside groups, and they wanted everyone to stay on message on jobs. â€¦ Clearly it was a mistake, because it didnâ€™t work.â€
Brown also said NOM wants to keep attacking, through advertising, conservatives that come out in support of same-sex marriage, like the group did with Republican state senators from New York who voted to legalize same-sex marriage in 2011.
â€œIf anything comes out of this election, we need to have what Rove had, which is the ability to have a super PAC-like structure, where there is money that is being used as a help, a sort of carrot, and that there are also sticks,â€ he said.
Brown also said that voter turnout among NOMâ€™s constituency was low.
â€œThe other side â€¦ their get-out-the-vote machine â€” Obama, and the Democratic Party â€” was just unbelievable for an election of this type,â€ he said. â€œAnd our people did stay at home. There was actually less Evangelical voters in many of these states. â€¦ It was an absolute disaster for us.â€
â€˜We are sort of a baby organizationâ€™
NOM has long been criticized for portraying itself as a grassroots organization when so much of its major financial support has come from a few wealthy donors and conservative foundations.
But to the groupâ€™s supporters, Brown and Schubert talked about the need for more genuine grassroots support.
â€œWe think that we need to look closely at how we organize at the grassroots level.â€ Schubert said. â€œWe have a lot of superficial support, particularly in the Protestant community, but weâ€™ve had a very difficult time in operationalizing that support into actual grassroots activities, getting people walking precincts, making phone calls, doing the day-to-day hard work of being grassroots allies for us.â€
Brown said the organization is now trying to figure out ways to attract more grassroots supporters.
â€œJust looking at the battlefield, we are not the Human Rights Campaign,â€ he said. â€œTheyâ€™ve got 40 million dollars; theyâ€™ve got multiple grassroots directors. We are sort of a baby organization thatâ€™s had to grow very quickly, and we are going to be focusing a lot more on the grassroots.â€
This article and the accompanying image originally appeared atÂ The American IndependentÂ and are gratefully republished here by permission.
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Sean Spicer Bitterly Complains the Press Is Treating Jen Psaki Better Than They Did Him
As part of a deep dive into the growing popularity of White House press secretary Jen Psaki who has a legion of admirers on social media due to her handling of press, former Donald Trump press secretary Sean Spicer complained to the New York Times that she has gotten a free pass from the media that he never got.
According to the report, even Peter Doocy of Fox News had high praise for Psaki despite his almost daily battles with Psaki that have become widely shared on Twitter and evening newscasts.
“It never feels like I’m getting smacked down or vice versa,” Doocy admitted. “I understand why it looks like that, some of the ways that stuff gets clipped, but it doesn’t feel like that in the room.”
He added, “When I got back from my wedding she made a point to tell everybody in the briefing room that I just got married. That’s a transcript I can print out and show to my kids one day.”
As for Spicer, who eventually resigned following combative press conferences that were famously mocked on Saturday Night Live — with actor Melissa McCarthy portraying a bullying and manic Spicer — he thinks he was held to a higher standard than the current press secretary.
“‘I walked into the lion’s den every day — she walks into a bunch of kittens,'” Sean Spicer, Mr. Trump’s first press secretary and now the 6 p.m. anchor on Newsmax, said in an interview,” the Times’ Michael Grynbaum wrote.
Spicer also took exception to Psaki taking a dig at him during a press conference after President Joe Biden asked him to resign from the board of the United States Military Academy when she was asked about his performance in her job as well as appearances by Kellyanne Conway defending Donald Trump.
Psaki replied, “I will let others evaluate whether they think Kellyanne Conway and Sean Spicer and others were qualified.”
That led Spicer to complain, “Jen chose to stand and question my qualifications and services to this country. Once she did that, the gloves were off.”
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GOP Gov. Kristi Noem Won’t Make Kids Wear Masks in Schools But She Is Trying to Make Them Pray
South Dakota’s Republican Governor Kristi Noem refuses to mandate masks for schoolchildren and teachers but she’s trying to make students pray in public. Gov. Noem, who is widely expected to run for president in 2024, has let the coronavirus run rampant in her state of just 886,667 people – a population so small New York City’s is ten times larger. And yet coronavirus is running rampant in South Dakota, which ranks number eight in the nation for coronavirus cases per capita.
Governor Noem just made clear she does not see herself as a government or political leader, but as a religious one. Speaking to Real America’s Voice personality David Brody, Noem declared she will bring back prayer in schools (even though voluntary prayer has always been legal) and thinks political leaders are supposed to “minister” to their constituents.
Complaining that the actions other government leaders are taking “are not biblical,” Noem says they are supposed to “line up with God,” which is false.
“I think that it’s really time for all of us to look at the actions of our leaders and see if they line up with the word of God,” Noem said, “see if they’re biblical and if they really are following through on those actions that God’s called us to do to protect people, to serve people, and to really minister to them.”
Protecting, serving, and ministering – but not in the fight against the deadly pandemic.
“We’ve seen our society, our culture, degrade, as we’ve removed God out of our lives, and people become what they spend their time doing,” Noem declared. “When I was growing up, we spent every Sunday morning, every night, every Wednesday night in church, we were our church, family was a part of our life, we read the Bible every day as a family together, and spent time with each other, recognizing that we were created to serve others.”
Again, Noem makes clear she does not believe serving and protecting others has anything to do with COVID-19.
“I don’t know families do that as much anymore and those biblical values are learned, in the family, And they’re learned in church when the doors are open so people can be there and be taught.”
“We in South Dakota, have decided to take action to really stand for biblical principles. We had a bill that was passed during legislative session two years ago that put the the motto ‘In God We Trust’ in every single school building it is displayed. Now in every K-12 school building in the state of South Dakota.
“I have legislation that we’ll be proposing this year that will allow us to pray in schools, again, I really believe that focusing on those foundational biblical principles that teach us that every life has value every person has a purpose will recenter our kids and help us really heal this division that we see taking over our country.”
MSNBC’s Steve Benen notes, “given that the United States is a democracy, and not a theocracy, officials’ actions are supposed to line up with the Constitution and the rule of law, not how some people interpret scripture.”
“What the governor seemed to be suggesting, however, isn’t a system in which students pray on their own,” he adds, “but one in which school officials intervene in children’s religious lives. In the United States, that’s not legal: As my friends at Americans United for Separation of Church and State recently explained, ‘The South Dakota Supreme Court struck down mandatory recitation of the Lord’s Prayer in the state’s public schools in 1929. The U.S. Supreme Court invalidated school-sponsored prayer and Bible reading in public schools in 1962 and ’63.'”
South Dakota Gov. Kristi Noem says the positions taken by political leaders must "line up with the word of God" and brags about pushing for prayer in public schools. pic.twitter.com/DRd2MJaKZw
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Former Texas solicitor general and Federalist Society member Jonathan Mitchell, The Guardian reports, “who played a pivotal role in designing the legal framework of the state’s near-total abortion ban, also argued on behalf of anti-abortion group Texas Right to Life that women would still be able to terminate pregnancies if Roe was overturned by traveling to ‘wealthy pro-abortion’ states like California and New York with the help of ‘taxpayer subsidies.'”
“Women can ‘control their reproductive lives’ without access to abortion; they can do so by refraining from sexual intercourse,” Mitchell wrote in the brief. “One can imagine a scenario in which a woman has chosen to engage in unprotected (or insufficiently protected) sexual intercourse on the assumption that an abortion will be available to her later. But when this court announces the overruling of Roe, that individual can simply change their behavior in response to the court’s decision if she no longer wants to take the risk of an unwanted pregnancy.”
“In the same brief, which calls for Roe to be overturned,” The Guardian adds, “Mitchell and co-counsel Adam Mortara, an anti-abortion activist and lawyer who clerked for the supreme court justice Clarence Thomas, said such a decision could open the door for other ‘lawless’ rights and protections to be reversed, including the right to have gay sex and the right to same-sex marriage.”
In their July, 2021 Supreme Court amicus brief, Mitchell and Mortara also call “interracial marriage” one of several “supposed constitutional ‘rights’ that have no basis in constitutional text or historical practice.” Among them, “court-imposed ‘substantive due process’ rights whose textual and historical provenance are equally dubious.”
On same-sex marriage and sex their opinion was devastatingly ruthless.
“The news is not as good for those who hope to preserve the court-invented rights to homosexual behavior and same-sex marriage,” the amicus brief reads. “These ‘rights,’ like the right to abortion from Roe, are judicial concoctions, and there is no other source of law that can be invoked to salvage their existence.”
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