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Why The Salt Lake City Gay Kiss Case Is A Huge Win For Gays

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What Happened To Charges Of “Passionate Kissing, Groping, Profane and Lewd Language, and Using Alcohol”?

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Salt Lake City's Main Street Plaza, where gay couple was arrested.

Salt Lake City Prosecutor Sim Gill just announced he is dropping all charges against the gay couple arrested on July 9 for kissing at the Mormon Church’s Main Street pedestrian plaza. This is fascinating and leads me to ask this question: Were representatives of the Mormon Church lying to police and to the public, or at least incorrectly characterizing a gay couple’s behavior, when they claimed, more than one week after the initial incident, and not in their first released statement, that, “There was much more involved that a simple kiss of the cheek,” and, “They engaged in passionate kissing, groping, profane and lewd language, and had obviously been using alcohol”?

I’ll ask that question again:
Were representatives of the Mormon Church lying to police and to the public, or at least incorrectly characterizing a gay couple’s behavior, when, in a written statement, more than one week after the initial incident, and not in their first released statement, according to several news sources, church spokeswoman Kim Farah said, “There was much more involved that a simple kiss of the cheek,” and, “They engaged in passionate kissing, groping, profane and lewd language, and had obviously been using alcohol”?

Because, if all charges were dropped, why weren’t the men charged with whatever local ordinances Salt Lake City has against public passionate kissing, groping, profane and lewd language, and the use of alcohol in public?

The Church has claimed all along that the same-sex couple who were detained by Church officials, and subsequently arrested by police, were not arrested for a simple public kiss, contrary to statements the couple made. The Church claims the men crossed the line of what they consider public decency, and the police arrested them. Later, the “passionate kissing, groping, profane and lewd language, and had obviously been using alcohol” part was added to the Church’s statements.

So, if all charges were dropped, and SLC Prosecutor Sim Gill said, “The two individuals believed — albeit mistakenly — that they had the right to be there. […] Fairness requires that either that property be not open to the public or you condition that [openness] in a way that the person who comes on understands that it is private property,” why was there NO mention by Gill, or reported in the press of the men’s engaging in “passionate kissing, groping, profane and lewd language, and had obviously been using alcohol”?

Read the news stories in order. You’ll find an interesting pattern:

1. Gay couple arrested on Church property for kissing.

2. Gay couple arrested on Church property for kissing and using profanity, and were engaging in lewd behavior including groping, and they were drunk.

3. Gay couple arrested on Church property for kissing and using profanity, and were engaging in lewd behavior including groping, and they were drunk. What seems like the entire city of Salt Lake goes to town, hitting blogs and news sites, saying the men were drunk and groping each other and their behavior is disgusting and the Mormon Church is a victim.

4. Gay couple arrested on Church property for kissing and using profanity, and were engaging in lewd behavior including groping, and they were drunk. What seems like the entire city of Salt Lake goes to town, hitting blogs and news sites, saying the men were drunk and groping each other and their behavior is disgusting and the Mormon Church is a victim, and gays want special rights and special treatment.

5. Gay couple arrested on Church property for kissing and using profanity, and were engaging in lewd behavior including groping, and they were drunk. What seems like the entire city of Salt Lake goes to town, hitting blogs and news sites, saying the men were drunk and groping each other and their behavior is disgusting and the Mormon Church is a victim, and gays want special rights and special treatment, and Kiss-Ins are bad and don’t work and gays just want to flaunt their sexuality in public.

6. Gay couple arrested on Church property for kissing and using profanity, and were engaging in lewd behavior including groping, and they were drunk. What seems like the entire city of Salt Lake goes to town, hitting blogs and news sites, saying the men were drunk and groping each other and their behavior is disgusting and the Mormon Church is a victim, and gays want special rights and special treatment, and Kiss-Ins are bad and don’t work and gays just want to flaunt their sexuality in public. Homosexuality is a sin.

7. Gay couple arrested on Church property for kissing. Church had said it was more than a simple kiss. Prosecutor drops all charges. No mention of passionate kissing, groping, profane and lewd language, or the use of alcohol in public.

See a pattern here?

Again, I’ll ask the question that MUST be answered:

Were representatives of the Mormon Church lying to police and to the public, or at least incorrectly characterizing a gay couple’s behavior, when, in a written statement, more than one week after the initial incident, and not in their first released statement, according to several news sources, church spokeswoman Kim Farah said, “There was much more involved that a simple kiss of the cheek,” and, “They engaged in passionate kissing, groping, profane and lewd language, and had obviously been using alcohol”?

So, why is this a huge win for gays? Because it says “No” to The Mormon Church. And, in reality, that’s a huge win for everyone.

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Some House Democrats and House Republicans are coming together toward a common opponent: far-right “pro-Putin” hardliners in the House Republican conference, who appear to be led by U.S. Rep. Marjorie Taylor Greene (R-GA).

Congresswoman Greene has been threatening to oust the Republican Speaker of the House, Mike Johnson. Last month she filed a “motion to vacate the chair.” If she chooses to call it up she could force a vote on the House floor to try to remove Speaker Johnson.

House Democrats say they are willing to vote against ousting Johnson, as long as the Speaker puts on the floor desperately needed and long-awaited legislation to fund aid to Ukraine and Israel. Johnson has refused to put the Ukraine aid bill on the floor for months, but after Iran attacked Israel Johnson switched gears. Almost all Democrats and a seemingly large number of Republicans want to pass the Ukraine and Israel aid packages.

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Forgoing the possibility of installing Democratic House Minority Leader Hakeem Jeffries as Speaker, which is conceivable given Johnson’s now one-vote majority, Democrats say if Johnson does the right thing, they will throw him their support.

“I think he’ll be in good shape,” to get Democrats to support him, if he puts the Ukraine aid bill on the floor, U.S. Rep. Raja Krishnamoorthi (D-IL) told CNN Thursday. “I would say that there’s a lot of support for the underlying bills. I think those are vital.”

“If these bills were delivered favorably, and the aid was favorably voted upon, and Marjorie Taylor Greene went up there with a motion to remove him, for instance, I think there’s gonna be a lot of Democrats that move to kill that motion,” Congressman Krishnamoorthi said. “They don’t want to see him getting punished for doing the right thing.”

“I think it is a very bad policy of the House to allow one individual such as Marjorie Taylor Greene, who is an arsonist to this House of Representatives,” U.S. Rep. Dan Goldman (D-NY) told CBS News’ Scott MacFarlane, when asked about intervening to save Johnson. He added he doesn’t want her “to have so much influence.”

U.S. Rep. Anthony D’Esposito, one of several Republicans who won their New York districts in 2022, districts that were previously held by Democrats, opposes Greene’s motion to vacate – although he praised the Georgia GOP congresswoman.

CNN’s Manu Raju reports Republicans “say it’s time to marginalize hardliners blocking [their] agenda.”

D’Esposito, speaking to Raju, called for “repercussions for those who completely alienate the will of the conference. The people gave us the majority because they wanted Republicans to govern.”

U.S. Rep. Mike Lawler, like D’Esposito is another New York Republican who won a previously Democratic seat in 2022. Lawler spoke out against the co-sponsor of Greene’s motion to vacate, U.S. Rep. Tim Massie (R-KY), along with two other House Republicans who are working to block the Ukraine aid bill via their powerful seats on the Rules Committee.

U.S. Rep. Mikie Sherrill (D-NJ), a former Navy pilot, blasted Congresswoman Greene.

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“Time is of the essence” for Ukraine, Rep. Sherrill told CNN Wednesday night. “The least we can do is support our Democratic allies, especially given what we know Putin to do. To watch a report and to think there are people like Marjorie Taylor Greene on the right that are pro-Putin? That are pro-Russia? It is really shocking.”

U.S. Rep. Dan Crenshaw (R-TX), as NCRM reported Thursday, had denounced Greene.

“I guess their reasoning is they want Russia to win so badly that they want to oust the Speaker over it,” he said, referring to the Ukraine aid bill Greene and her cohorts want to tank. “I mean that’s a strange position to take.”

The far-right hardliners are also causing chaos in the House.

“Things just got very heated on the House floor,” NBC News’ Julie Tsirkin reported earlier Thursday. “Group of hardliners were trying to pressure Johnson to only put Israel aid on the floor and hold Ukraine aid until the Senate passed HR2.”

HR2 is the House Republicans’ extremist anti-immigrant legislation that has n o chance of passage in the Senate nor would it be signed into law by President Biden.

“Johnson said he couldn’t do it, and [U.S. Rep. Derrick] Van Orden,” a far-right Republican from Wisconsin “called him ‘tubby’ and vowed to bring on the MTV [Motion to Vacate.]”

“No one in the group (Gaetz, Boebert, Burchett, Higgins, Donalds et al.) were threatening Johnson with an MTV,” Tsirkin added. “Van Orden seemed to escalate things dramatically…”

Despite Greene’s pro-Putin and anti-Ukraine positions, her falsehoods about “Ukrainian Nazis,” and Russians not slaughtering Ukrainian clergy, reporters continue to “swarm”:

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‘They Want Russia to Win So Badly’: GOP Congressman Blasts Far-Right House Republicans

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A sitting Republican Congressman is harshly criticizing far-right House Republicans over their apparent support of Russia.

“I guess their reasoning is they want Russia to win so badly that they want to oust the Speaker over it. I mean that’s a strange position to take,” U.S. Rep. Dan Crenshaw, a three-term Texas Republican rated a hard-core conservative told CNN’s Manu Raju, in video posted Thursday. “I think they want to be in the minority too. I think that’s an obvious reality.”

Congressman Crenshaw was referring to the movement led by U.S. Rep. Marjorie Taylor Greene (R-GA), now joined by U.S. Rep. Thomas Massie (R-KY), over the Republican Speaker of the House Mike Johnson’s decision to finally put legislation on the floor to provide funding to Ukraine to support that sovereign nation in its fight against Russia.

“I’m still trying to process all the b*llsh*t,” Crenshaw added.

Crenshaw on Thursday also commented on Speaker Johnson’s remarks, stating he will hold the Ukraine funding vote regardless of attempts to oust him over it.

“To be clear, he’s being threatened for even allowing a vote to come to the floor. For allowing the constitutional process to play out as intended by our Founders. That’s a wild thing to consider, especially when his enemies consider themselves ‘conservative.’ Not conserving the painstaking constitutional process our Founders created, that’s for sure. Conserving Putin’s gains on the battlefield, more like it.”

Journalist Brian Beutler, a former editor-in-chief at Crooked Media, called it, “darkly funny to me that a pincer movement of MAGAns and leftists mock liberals for claiming the GOP works hand in glove with Russia, and then multiple conservative Republican dissenters are like ‘no it’s true, we’re lousy with Russian influence.'”

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Marjorie Taylor Greene, ‘Putin’s Envoy’? Democrat’s Bills Mock Republican’s Actions

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For years U.S. Rep. Marjorie Taylor Greene (R-GA) has been called “Pro-Putin.” As far back as 2021, her first year as a member of Congress, the question had been raised on social media: “Is Marjorie Taylor Greene a Russian asset?”

In 2022 The Annenberg Public Policy Center’s FactCheck.org reported: “Marjorie Taylor Greene Parrots Russian Talking Point on Ukraine.”

Back then, as the article highlighted, Greene had said, “there is no doubt that [Russian President Vladimir] Putin’s actions in Ukraine are despicable and evil.”

Now, she promotes a far more favorable view of President Vladimir Putin and his illegal war against Ukraine, a sovereign nation which the Russian autocrat wants to incorporate – at least partly – into Russia.

Just last week Greene spread demonstrably false pro-Russia talking points about a “war on Christianity” while defending and promoting President Vladimir Putin.

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“This is a war on Christianity,” Greene told far-right propagandist Steve Bannon. “The Ukrainian government is attacking Christians, the Ukrainian government is executing priests. Russia is not doing that.”

That’s just plain false, as NCRM reported.

Largely in response to her strong opposition to the U.S. supporting Ukraine, and her spreading Russian disinformation and flat-out pro-Putin falsehoods, Greene’s fondness for Putin and Russia has been making headlines.

“Republicans Who Like Putin,” was the headline last month at The New York Times, which observed: “A few Republicans have gone so far as [to] speak about Ukraine and its president, Volodymyr Zelensky, in ways that mimic Russian propaganda. Representative Marjorie Taylor Greene has accused Ukraine of having ‘a Nazi army,’ echoing language Putin used to justify the invasion.”

“The Putin Republicans Have the Upper Hand” warned Washington Monthly‘s David Atkins on Wednesday, reporting on “conservative extremists led by Representative Marjorie Taylor Greene.”

“They admire the strongman as a Christian nationalist leader, and won’t support Ukraine. The global consequences of their besotted love affair with the Russian strongman could be cataclysmic.”

“Russia Is Buying Politicians in Europe. Is It Happening Here Too?” The New Republic‘s Alex Finley wrote last week. The photo at the top of the page? Marjorie Taylor Greene.

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Finley pointed to Greene’s interview with Bannon, “about Ukraine’s persecution of Christians, which is a Kremlin talking point aimed at boosting the pro-Moscow wing of Ukraine’s Orthodox Church. The U.S. should be spending money on the border with Mexico, not on Ukraine aid? That’s a Kremlin talking point. Russia invaded Ukraine to defend itself against an expanding NATO? That’s a Kremlin talking point. Call for a cease-fire, and give Russia Crimea and eastern Ukraine? That’s a Kremlin talking point.”

Rupert Murdoch’s New York Post last week ran this headline: “Rep. Marjorie Taylor Greene says she ‘seriously hates’ people who support sending more aid to Ukraine: ‘Most repulsive, disgusting thing happening’.”

Then there is Greene’s obsession with Nazis. Specifically, equating Ukrainians with Nazis, which she did several times over the past week, including on Wednesday. That earned her the condemnation and wrath of U.S. Rep. Jared Moskowitz (D-FL), who demanded: “Stop bringing up Nazis and Hitler.”

Wednesday night, Congressman Moskowitz, known for his use of humor and sarcasm to make his points, declared: “Just submitted an amendment to Bill drafting appointing MTG [Marjorie Taylor Greene] as Putin’s Special Envoy to the United States Congress.”

Moskowitz’s amendment was in response to Congresswoman Greene’s amendments requiring members to “conscript in the Ukrainian military” if they vote for the Ukraine military funding bill, as Juliegrace Brufke reported.

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The Florida Democrat wasn’t joking, as Axios’ Andrew Solender pointed out Thursday morning.

Moskowitz did not stop there.

He drafted legislation on Thursday to name the Capitol Hill offices occupied by Congresswoman Greene after the British Prime Minister Neville Chamberlain, infamous for promoting appeasement in dealing with Adolf Hitler.

Chamberlain also signed the Munich Agreement, which allowed Hitler to annex part of Czechoslovakia.

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