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  • Pope Francis Tells Gay Ambassador To His Face He Is Unacceptable

    Pope Francis met with Laurent Stefanini, the openly gay foreign service officer chosen by France to be ambassador to the Vatican, for fifteen minutes this weekend.  

    It is very unusual for a pope to get personally involved with the confirmation of an ambassador to the Vatican, but this weekend, Pope Francis met in private with Laurent Stefanini, the gay diplomat appointed by France to be its representative to the Vatican.

    The French weekly newspaper Le Canard Enchâiné reported yesterday that during the meeting, Pope Francis informed Msr. Stefanini personally that he could not accept his appointment to the Vatican. The pope is said to have told Msr. Stefanini that France’s legalization of same-sex marriage in 2013 was part of the reason he could not allow him into the Vatican’s diplomatic community. Reuters translated this concern to mean the pope fears Ambassador Stefanini could decide to marry while serving at the Vatican. 

    laurent_stefanini.jpgThe Vatican was notified last January that Laurent Stefanini, (photo right) had been appointed to be France's ambassador to the Holy See, but the Curia in Rome refused to act on the nomination - effectively a "pocket veto" of the appointment. Pope Francis himself was reported to have personally rejected the posting, telling members of the Curia that he "would not yield". The Vatican used this method in 2007, to reject a previously nominated gay ambassador from France. In that case, the French government withdrew the nomination after receiving no response, but this time around the French refused to back down. 

     A government spokesman, Stephane LeFoll, told France24:

    "France has chosen its ambassador to the Vatican. This choice was Stefanini and that remains the French proposal. ...We are awaiting the response from the Vatican."

    It was only after France continued to publicly press the appointment that Pope Francis agreed to meet with Msr. Stefanini.

    Ambassador Stefanini has made no statement and the Vatican has declined to comment on the meeting, saying only that an ambassador is confirmed when his name is published in the official bulletin of the Holy See. The French government confirmed the papal audience took place, but is taking the position the meeting changed nothing. A spokesman said the Vatican still has not informed them Ambassador Stefanini has been officially rejected.

    "Nothing has changed: France has proposed a candidate and for the time being we are waiting for the Vatican's reply after the usual discussions and review of his candidacy."

    The French government appears to be determined; if Pope Francis rejects the French ambassador because he is gay, he is going to have to own his bias in front of the world. 




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    • commented 2015-06-26 19:21:08 -0400
      Lynda, Baptism is not the means of salvation, it is faith in the Gospel that saves (1 Corinthians 1:14-18;Romans 10:13-17). In the New Testament baptism is always practiced after saving faith in Christ.

    • commented 2015-06-18 08:16:08 -0400
      Rupert that is 100% correct. You must be Baptized with the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit and born again. The born again doesn’t mean go out and find a new Christian Church and be Baptize again. What Paul means by this is you must be born again with conversion like he has been. You must open your heart and allow the Holy Spirit in to do Gods Will not your own Free will.

    • commented 2015-06-16 06:43:57 -0400
      Rupert Rupert" why worry about a life after death that there is no scientific proof of when a person should be concerned about life on earth now. It is far more important to worry about the environment that we are destroying daily, using up natural unrenewable resources, man-made and man-instigated climate catastrophic changes, man-caused disappearing species, pollution, overpopulation, bigotry in all forms including race and sexual orientation that is the result of evolution, etc. that can add to the plethora of joy and diversity making this planet a better place in its billions of years since it was caused by a collision of elements. People who think they need a god or goddess have every right to enjoy their belief, but no one has the right to force fantasy on another. I prefer hands that work over the uselessness, as I see it, than lips that pray or prey. Remember that there was no written record of a Jesus until the end of the first century, but you have the right to think that but it is not supported by evidence of science, just a series of writings in the second and later centuries (your quote “you must be born again” is found in most of the world religions include those in Indian and the steppes.)

    • commented 2015-06-16 05:52:22 -0400
      Lynda, going to church every day of the week will unfortunately not secure your place in the kingdom of God. Jesus answered, “Very truly I tell you, no one can enter the kingdom of God unless they are born of water and the Spirit. Flesh gives birth to flesh, but the Spirit gives birth to spirit.  You should not be surprised at my saying, ‘You must be born again.’ The wind blows wherever it pleases. You hear its sound, but you cannot tell where it comes from or where it is going. So it is with everyone born of the Spirit.

    • commented 2015-05-05 18:47:36 -0400
      Mr. Williams with all due respect, this is like pissing in the wind. If they want to believe the greatest Fairy Tale ever written let them. No use in swapping the stories so someone can get you angry or taking the conversation totally way out into left field, where most of them are and it’s really sad and that they will let a book dictate how the run their life accordingly, if that’s what they want to do then fine. I know when someone starts babbling about religion, I say to myself oh crap, here we go again. Point is supposedly the man upstairs created everyone out of his own likeness, but then again if you really think about it, our Mom’s and Dad’s made us otherwise we wouldn’t be here. So to actually say God made you or me is Naive. All of this stuff that is going on in the world today with this “Religious Belief” is just another tactic to belittle Gay Marriage, the States are passing it, so they have to come up with another way to screw things up for the rest of us, mind you are also, I would think or for the most part Religious. As they say what’s good for the goose is good for the gander. No one should have their rights taken away or not been given a right to Love and Marry whoever they choose to.
      As for you Mr or Mrs. Wright, What would you do if your kid came to you and said you know, I have to tell you something, I am gay and they came to terms with it for themselves, What would you do? sounds like from your writings with Mr. Williams you sound like a hardcore religious fanatic, who would probably throw them right out of the house or stone them to death and never speak to them again. Now I ask you, Does that seem to be Christian values?

    • commented 2015-05-05 12:30:54 -0400

      Not all gay men practise sodomy, zero lesbians do and MOST anal iintercourse is practised by heterosexuals. You never answered my question as to why your God has decided not to tell every human being on Earth about his plans to try them alive for all eternity just for loving the person.their inbuilt nature programmed them to. Why has god not told everyone?

    • commented 2015-05-05 12:00:44 -0400
      Derek if you agree that sodomy is an un-natural act and therefore one aspect of what Jesus was alluding to when he was speaking about sexual immorality and you agree that the soul is placed in grave danger after death if one pursues practices like this then logically celibacy is the only option. I truly understand the difficulty of this and without a higher purpose to strive for, well nigh impossible especially as .we live in an age where sexual imagery saturates out lives. The concept of celibacy in this environment is mocked and laughed out of town. However, plenty of people practice it, including Buddhists and “gay” Christian men, to great affect spiritually and mentally. For the Church it is an act of self sacrifice by the priesthood in order to whole heartedly give themselves to the people and to Christ in imitation of Christ Himself. (The small percentage of pedophile priests has unfortunately tarnished the reputations of many holy priests I have met and have the great joy of knowing. They do heroic work.)
      As far as God “choosing not to tell us this” I don’t really understand your question. Apart from the great blueprint, the Holy Bible, Jesus told His disciples to spread the word to the ends of the earth and after they received the infusion of the Holy Spirit at Pentecost they began this work. It is up to all Christians to continue spreading the message.
      God respects and loves His people enough to want to use them rather than speak from some cloud!
      Trouble is, when the truth is a little inconvenient people run a mile and vilify the Church, one of God’s mouthpieces. Then again, they even crucified the original Messenger because they didn’t like what they heard!!
      As for Author Randy’s comment, all I can say is poor soul.
      If that is the best he/she has to offer he/she is in need of much help.
      Goodbye Derek and I pray for you. If you are, or become, a man of prayer please pray for me. Thank you.

    • commented 2015-05-04 12:16:58 -0400
      My Dears, Religion is like a penis, it’s a perfectly fine thing to have one and take pride in, but when one takes it out and waves it in my face that’s when we have a problem.

    • commented 2015-05-04 12:02:35 -0400
      TYPO “1. Quite the exact words where Jesus said gays should be celibate.”

      should say:
      “1. Quote the exact words where Jesus said gays should be celibate.”

    • commented 2015-05-04 12:01:16 -0400

      1. Quite the exact words where Jesus said gays should be celibate.
      2. You didn’t explain why God chose not to tell everyone about this.

      Quit equating gays with pedophiles. That’s old already.

    • commented 2015-05-04 11:47:54 -0400
      Derek you said:
      1. How many times does Christ refer to homosexuality and LGBT people and specifically where does he say that we will be given an infinite punishment for the finite transgression of loving each other?
      2. Why does God not tell this to every human being on earth?

      In Mark Jesus speaks of sexual immorality among other things stating that ""all these evils come from inside and defile you".
      It is self evident that un-natural sex acts would fall under the category of sexual immorality. No matter which way you look at it, anal sex is an an un-natural act biologically speaking whether it is practiced by heterosexuals or homosexuals. There are groups out there who think sex with children should be permissible (NAMBLA). Christ does not mention sex with children either so does that mean he was for it?
      The Church holds grave concern for the souls of people who enter into these practices. In actual fact their judgment on this is one of compassion as a result of what lies in store after death. If they were to bend with the times and go against their own teachings and God’s truth they would jeopardise the souls of these individuals. They won’t do it.
      Believe it or not. Your choice.

    • commented 2015-05-03 22:43:04 -0400

      You just shrugged your shoulders at the destruction of 350 million homosexuals by your vindictive and murderous god. How do you know for certain that NOT ONE of the 350 million gays is worthy of saving from your god’s lake of burning sulphur? They are in a loving relationship, completely unaware of the horrors your god has planned for them, because your god never bothered to tell them to give them a chance. Why do you think that is the action of a loving god, not to tell all those gay people that he plans to burn them forever without warning? If you really think that, then why talk to me?

      Now let’s move to the Old Testament, according to you in your earlier citation, the Word of none other than God himself. But it’s only the Word of God when you agree with it, otherwise, it’s conveniently been replaced by the New Testament. Nowhere in the Bible does it say that the Old Testament has been replaced by the New Testament. If it had been, then Bibles would be published without the Old Testament in them.

      You are worshiping a god who at one time commanded parents to kill their 7 year old children just for naughtiness. No god who would do that to a child is worthy of respect or worship. Why is your god so insecure that he needs to be constantly worshiped and told how great he is anyway? If he is so great, he already knows that.

      “The Word” you are trying to hawk contains some of the the most pernicious messages of death and hatred I have ever read. It commands death for the most trivial acts and all you learned from it was how to judge others.

      When I talk to people like you, I am reminded that religion is not only the scourge of the homosexual, it is the scourge of all humanity.

    • commented 2015-05-03 22:00:13 -0400
      Derek I showed you the old Testament for an example of what God said. However the NT is a New Covenant. Which continues with Jesus word. Even though Jesus said my fathers Laws have not changed many of the old costumes have like stoning (which was the Jewish Law) We are now Christians. We don’t sacrifice anymore Because the Lamb of God was the final sacrifice (Jesus). I have told you 3x, you just refuse to listen and that will be on your shoulders as well. He came into the world and Testified and his Apostles and Disciples spread his word. They wrote these words down and they Bound into a Bible in 397 in Carthage. I doubt anyone of those 350 mil care to hear or read his word. Because the Truth hurts. Derek there is nothing wrong with love it’s the actions. I am sorry you think you don’t know the Truth but I assure you many have told you so. You all ignore it. Ever hear of this? Bible = Basic Instructions Before Leaving Earth. Derek I am truly done with you because you don’t want to hear the Word. Your just wasting my time now.

    • commented 2015-05-03 21:25:10 -0400

      No you didn’t show me “The Word of God”.. I showed you the Word of God. YOU showed me cherry picked verses that you CHOOSE to obey because you can. Why don’t you obey the verses that tell you to kill naughty children? God’s word commands you to:

      Killing disobedient children commanded by God:
      DEUTERONOMY 21:18-21 “If a man has a stubborn and rebellious son who will not obey the voice of his father or the voice of his mother… then all the men of the city shall stone him to death with stones.”
      LEVITICUS 20:9 “Anyone who curses his father or his mother shall surely be put to death.”

      You also STILL have not responded to my question as to why your god hasn’t let told all of the 350 million homosexuals on the planet that he plans to burn them in a lake of sulphurous fire for all eternity, because they loved each other.

    • commented 2015-05-03 21:11:47 -0400
      Derek, I have shown you God’s word. Obviously you don’t like it or believe so do what you do best, Ignore it all and maybe it will go away. God Bless and have a good evening.

    • commented 2015-05-03 21:09:26 -0400
      Galatians 1:16-19

      Douay-Rheims 1899 American Edition (DRA)

      16 "To reveal his Son in me, that I might preach him among the Gentiles, immediately I condescended not to flesh and blood.

      17 Neither went I to Jerusalem, to the apostles who were before me: but I went into Arabia, and again I returned to Damascus.

      18 Then, after three years, I went to Jerusalem, to see Peter, and I tarried with him fifteen days."
      1. "On Paul’s conversion, formation and ascent to the office of Apostle (Bishop). Many have oversimplified notions of Paul’s conversion, and subsequent missionary activity. Many who have not carefully studied the texts of Acts, Galatians, and other references assume that Paul went right to work after his conversion as a missionary. But this was not the case.

      At the time near his conversion Paul was described as “a young man” (neanias). Sometime after the death of Stephen he had his conversion, encountering the risen Christ on the road to Damascus. Immediately following his encounter with Christ he was blinded for three days and eventually healed by a Christian named Ananias who also baptized him (Acts 9:9-19). Hereafter, according to Galatians, Paul went into the Desert of Arabia (Gal 1:17). Why he went, and for how long is not known. It is probably not wrong to presume that he went there to reflect and possibly be further formed in the Christian faith to which he had come so suddenly and unexpectedly. Was he there for several years as some scholars propose or just a brief time as others do? It is not possible to say with certainty but it would seem that some amount of time would be necessary to pray, reflect and experience formation in the Christian way, possibly with other Christians. A period of at least a year seems tenable and perhaps as many as three years. We can only speculate.

      Paul then returned to Damascus and joined the Christian community there for a period of almost three years (Gal 1:18). While there he took to debating in the synagogues and was so effective in demonstrating that Jesus was the hoped for messiah that some of the Jews there conspired to kill him. He fled the city and went to Jerusalem (Acts 9:20-25). Paul states that he went there to confer with Cephas (Peter) (Gal 1:18). Paul seems to imply that he thought it was time to confer with Peter since he had begun to teach and even now was gaining disciples. Later he would describe the purpose of another visit to Peter and the other leaders: to present the Gospel that I preach to the Gentiles…so that I might not be running, or have run in vain (Gal 2:2). While there on this first visit he stayed for 15 days and also met James. " http://forums.catholic.com/showthread.php?t=795127&highlight=Pauls+conversion
      Derek, he certainly did. Why do you think I am showing you verses. That is his word in the Bible. Did you know up until 1960 the U.S Congress bought every Classroom a Bible. Derek, when you are Baptized you are given the Holy spirit and must speaks God word. AGAIN, I said I do not Preach in Church. I am not a Minister or a Priest.. . A Biblical Profile of a Disciple

      Purpose: The purpose of this study is to help you understand the term “disciple” and show operationally the distinct characteristics of such a person.

      1. The disciple will understand that a disciple is more than a believer in Jesus Christ.

      2. The disciple will understand that being a disciple involves dedicated discipline and pursuit of the purposes of our Heavenly Father.

      3. The disciple will see that discipleship is both an Old and New Testament principle.

      4. The disciple will experience a reinforcement of the principles Jesus had in mind for reaching the world.
      Scripture Memory

      Jesus said to him, “No one who puts his hand to the plow and looks back is fit for the kingdom of God.”

      Luke 9:62

      1. Prayer and sharing

      2. Discuss topic for this session.

      3. Discuss questions.

      4. Interact over the book Disciples are Made — Not Born, Leroy Eims.

      5. Review Scripture memory.
      Making Disciples

      I. The Lord put great emphasis upon teaching and the making of disciples in His Great Commission to the Church. See Matthew 28:19-20.

      A. Make disciples (more than believers).

      B. Baptize.

      C. Teach.

      II. What is a disciple? A learner who submits to discipline, or one who becomes a disciplined learner.

      A. Must be willing to suffer ridicule, Matthew 10:24-25

      B. Must be willing to forsake earthly ties, Luke 14:26.

      C. Must be willing to lay down his life in following Jesus, Luke 14:26.

      D. Must be willing to forsake things, Luke 14:27.

      E. Must be willing to continue in His Word, John 8:31.

      F. Must bear fruit, John 15:8.

      G. Must be teachable, John 14:26.

      H. Must be one whose life is characterized by love, John 13:35.

      III. Discipleship is modeled in Paul’s ministry with Timothy, 2 Timothy 2:2.

      A. Commit (entrust) to others what you have heard. The privilege of receiving the Word bears the responsibility of sharing it as well.

      B. Faithful men are to be involved — not necessarily enthusiastic men, but those who persist.

      C. They are to be committed with the idea of passing the Gospel on to others, Acts 19: 9-10.

      IV. Moses used this method in the Old Testament, Exodus 18:18, 21, 22.

      V. Christ’s relationship with His disciples is a further and brilliant example, John 17.

      A. He chose a few — twelve.

      B. He dealt with them on the basis of the Word, John 17:8, and “they received them.”

      C. He prayed for them, John 17:9.

      D. He invested everything He had in them, John 17:19.

      E. He devoted all of His time to them, yet one proved to be untrue.

      VI. Hence, if we are going to win men, we are obligated to care for them spiritually, Colossians 1:28-29; John 15:16.

      VII. So what is really involved in the making of disciples and caring and nurturing them?

      A. Praying for them, having patience and showing grace toward them.

      B. Giving clear instruction from the Word of God.

      C. Making the teaching practical — teaching them how to do things.
      The Essentials of a Reproductive Disciple Making Ministry





      God desires that all be saved.

      1 Timothy 2:4: “since he wants all people to be saved and to come to a knowledge of the truth.”



      God desires that all grow.

      Colossians 1:28: “We proclaim him by instructing and teaching all people with all wisdom so that we may present every person mature in Christ.”



      God desires that all serve.

      1 Peter 4:10: “Just as each one has received a gift, use it to serve one another as good stewards of the varied grace of God.”


      The following variables are descriptions of a disciple— one who truly follows Jesus.

      I. A disciple is a learner, Proverbs 9:8-10; Matthew 4:19; John 6:60-66. As such, he is open and teachable. He does not have an attitude of “knowing it all.” Learning and growing is a lifetime venture.

      II. A disciple is one who has made a firm commitment to the Lordship of Jesus, putting Him first in every aspect of his life. This commitment is for a lifetime, Matthew 6:9-13, 24, 33; Luke 9:23; John 13:13; 2 Corinthians 5:15.

      III. A disciple is committed to a life of obedience, 1 Corinthians 6:19-20; Ephesians 4:22-5:5.

      IV. A disciple has a daily devotional time and is developing his prayer life, Psalm 27:4; 42:1-2; Mark 1:35; Luke 11:1-4.

      V. A disciple demonstrates faithfulness and a desire to learn and apply the Word of God through hearing it preached and taught, reading it frequently, Bible study, Scripture memory, and meditation on the Scriptures, John 8:31; Acts 17:11; Colossians 3:16; 2 Timothy 2:15.

      VI. A disciple has a heart for witnessing, gives his testimony clearly, and presents the Gospel regularly with increasing skill, Matthew 28:18-20; Acts 1:8; Romans 1:16; 1 Thessalonians 2:4.

      VII. A disciple is a regular attendee of church services, where his spiritual needs are met, and where he makes a contribution to the body of believers, Psalm 122:1; Acts 16:5; 1 Corinthians 12:12-27; Hebrews 10:25.

      VIII. A disciple fellowships regularly with other believers, 1 John 1:3.

      IX. A disciple is a servant and is actively engaged in helping others in practical ways, Act 6:1-4.

      X. A disciple honors God with his finances, 1 Corinthians 16:1-2.

      XI. A disciple practices spirituality and demonstrates the fruit of the Spirit in His life, Galatians 5:22-23.

      This is a careful look at Scripture and what it means to be a disciple. You are encouraged to look up the following verses and see the characteristics of a disciple. In Matthew 28:19-20, Jesus has told us to go into all the world and make __________. We might look at the word disciple itself and see that it is the word from which we get the word _ _ _ _ _ pline. Discipling suggests something more active. We are told in 2 Timothy 2:3 to ______________ _____________as a good soldier. It is interesting that the word “suffer” is the word hupomeno, which means to “bear up under.”

      There are many fitting descriptions of a disciple in Scripture. Look up these verses of Scripture and see characteristics of a Biblical disciple. Study each verse carefully and see if you can identify the characteristic of a disciple.

      1. Proverbs 9:8-10 say that I will be _______________ if I am truly a disciple. Being teachable involves a willingness to submit to another. It acknowledges a need to learn ________________ through the fear of the Lord. A disciple, therefore, does not have the attitude of “knowing it all.” He is open and teachable. Jesus said, “____________________________________,” Matthew 4:19. According to this verse, what is involved in following Him?

      In summary, then, a disciple might be called one who is a disciplined ____________. Surely, there is a willingness to continue to ____________ throughout one’s lifetime, Matthew 11:29.

      2. Read John 13:13; 2 Corinthians 5:15; and Luke 9:23. What thread of truth concerning what a disciple is can be found in these verses?

      Having thought this through, what can be inferred about the behavior of a disciple that would typify one who is a genuine disciplined learner?

      3. Acts 1:8, Romans 1:16, and Matthew 28:18-20 suggests another aspect of a true disciple. See if you can find this characteristic and state it clearly.

      What practical steps are you taking in your own life, being a disciple, to fulfill this characteristic of true discipleship?

      List the names of others you are actively praying for and witnessing to.

      If you could not answer the question immediately preceding this, please indicate your reason for not being able to answer.

      4. Hebrews 10:25 and Psalm 122:1 indicate that true disciples will be faithful in?

      5. Matthew 10:24 seems to imply that a disciple is a _____________ and that as a servant, he is willing to minister in very basic ways. What are some “servant” behaviors you have been willing to do? See also Acts 6:1-4.

      6. Luke 14:26 tells us some very difficult things to hear. How do you explain this Scripture in ways that describe a disciple?

      7. John 13:35 says the mark of discipleship is ________________ one another. What problems do you have loving others?

      8. John 8:31 says that a mark of a disciple is one who _______________ in the Word. This involves not only study but obedience to the Scriptures.

      9. John 15:8 indicates that _____________________ is a mark of disciple ship. What kind of fruit is this?

      This is one of the chief ways we demonstrate we are His disciples.

      10. Acts 11:26 says that disciples were first called ________________ at Antioch. What does this indicate concerning being a disciple?

      11. Acts 13:52 says that the disciples were filled with ____________ and the __________ ________________. Does this mean that there is never a lapse in the life of a true disciple? ___________ What should a disciple do if he finds himself devoid of joy and lacking the fullness of the Spirit?

      See Session 9 on spirituality and meditate on Galatians 5:22-23.

      12. 1 Corinthians 16:1,2 tells us that we should _________________________
      and this probably translates itself into a simplicity of life for disciples. Certainly disciples through the centuries have not lived complicated lives, nor have they been tied into the world system. There is a need today to live uncomplicated lives and move toward simplicity. What does Colossians 3:1-3 say to us about simplicity and the urge to have?

      See also Luke 12:15 and write briefly about what it says concerning the attitude of us who are His disciples regarding money and earthly possessions.

      To be a disciple of Christ is quite different from the walk of most of us in the world. It is choosing to be different. It is intentionally moving toward a different dimension than adjustment to the world-system which is all around us. After doing this session, write some of the most difficult things involved from your standpoint.

      For future Scripture memory: Luke 12:15; Colossians 3:1-3; John 15:8; and John 8:31.

      “Why do you call Me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ and do not do what I say?” Luke 6:46.
      He tells us all through the Bible he is the head of the Church and we are the Body…all members.
      Douay-Rheims Bible 1 Corinthians 12:27
      Now you are the body of Christ, and members of member.
      Question: “How is the church the Body of Christ?”

      Answer: The phrase “the Body of Christ” is a common New Testament metaphor for the Church (all those who are truly saved). The Church is called “one body in Christ” in Romans 12:5, “one body” in 1 Corinthians 10:17, “the body of Christ” in 1 Corinthians 12:27 and Ephesians 4:12, and “the body” in Hebrews 13:3. The Church is clearly equated with “the body” of Christ in Ephesians 5:23 and Colossians 1:24.

      When Christ entered our world, He took on a physical body “prepared” for Him (Hebrews 10:5; Philippians 2:7). Through His physical body, Jesus demonstrated the love of God clearly, tangibly, and boldly—especially through His sacrificial death on the cross (Romans 5:8). After His bodily ascension, Christ continues His work in the world through those He has redeemed—the Church now demonstrates the love of God clearly, tangibly, and boldly. In this way, the Church functions as “the Body of Christ.”

      The Church may be called the Body of Christ because of these facts:

      1) Members of the Body of Christ are joined to Christ in salvation (Ephesians 4:15-16).

      2) Members of the Body of Christ follow Christ as their Head (Ephesians 1:22-23).

      3) Members of the Body of Christ are the physical representation of Christ in this world. The Church is the organism through which Christ manifests His life to the world today.

      4) Members of the Body of Christ are indwelt by the Holy Spirit of Christ (Romans 8:9).

      5) Members of the Body of Christ possess a diversity of gifts suited to particular functions (1 Corinthians 12:4-31). “The body is a unit, though it is made up of many parts; and though all its parts are many, they form one body. So it is with Christ” (verse 12).

      6) Members of the Body of Christ share a common bond with all other Christians, regardless of background, race, or ministry. “There should be no division in the body, but . . . its parts should have equal concern for each other” (1 Corinthians 12:25).

      7) Members of the Body of Christ are secure in their salvation (John 10:28-30). For a Christian to lose his salvation, God would have to perform an “amputation” on the Body of Christ!

      8) Members of the Body of Christ partake of Christ’s death and resurrection (Colossians 2:12).

      9) Members of the Body of Christ share Christ’s inheritance (Romans 8:17).

      10) Members of the Body of Christ receive the gift of Christ’s righteousness (Romans 5:17).

      Read more: http://www.gotquestions.org/body-of-Christ.html#ixzz3Z7z5Tkjp

    • commented 2015-05-03 20:41:00 -0400

      How selective you are in your quotation from Leviticus! Let me challenge you no to admit honestly whether you truly obey Leviticus yourself. Let’s start with a few choice verses below (this is barely scratching the surface):

      LEVITICUS 11:6-8 Outlaws the playing of football (touching the skin of a dead pig).
      LEVITICUS 11:9-12 Eating shellfish or pork strictly forbidden.
      LEVITICUS 14:2-52 God’s cure for leprosy: “Get two birds. Kill one. Dip the live bird in the blood of the dead one. Sprinkle the blood on the leper seven times, and then let the blood-soaked bird fly away. Next find a lamb and kill it. Wipe some of its blood on the patient’s right ear, thumb, and big toe. Sprinkle seven times with oil and wipe some of the oil on his right ear, thumb and big toe. Repeat. Finally find another pair of birds. Kill one and dip the live bird in the dead bird’s blood. Wipe some blood on the patient’s right ear, thumb, and big toe. Sprinkle the house with blood 7 times.”
      LEVITICUS 18:19 A married couple who have sexual intercourse during a woman’s period shall both be executed.
      LEVITICUS 19:19 May not wear polyester cotton shirts (wearing garments of mixed fabrics forbidden)
      LEVITICUS 20:9 “Anyone who curses his father or his mother shall surely be put to death.”
      LEVITICUS 20:18 No marriage shall be sanctioned in which the wedding ceremony shall occur during the women’s menstrual cycle.
      LEVITICUS 21:17-21 “Speak to Aaron, saying, ‘No man of your offspring throughout their generations who has a defect shall approach to offer the food of his God. | ’For no one who has a defect shall approach: a blind man, or a lame man, or he who has a disfigured face, or any deformed limb, | or a man who has a broken foot or broken hand, | or a hunchback or a dwarf, or one who has a defect in his eye or eczema or scabs or crushed testicles. | ’No man among the descendants of Aaron the priest who has a defect is to come near to offer the LORD’S offerings by fire; since he has a defect, he shall not come near to offer the food of his God.”
      LEVITICUS 25:45 Says it’s OK for a foreigner in your country to sell you their child, and equally OK for you to buy them and treat them as chattel.
      LEVITICUS 26:14-30 “Then if you walk contrary to me …you shall eat the flesh of your sons, and you shall eat the flesh of your daughters.”

    • commented 2015-05-03 20:35:51 -0400
      oops, repeated second typo:
      “without any waring” should be “without any warning”

    • commented 2015-05-03 20:35:06 -0400
      typos in my previous post:
      “wantoning subjecting” should be " wantonly subjecting"
      “without any waring should be”without any waring"

    • commented 2015-05-03 20:32:41 -0400

      The Bible doesn’t say what you claim about “Jesus showing Paul”. Please quote the text that you believe says this.

      If you believe the writings of Paul, then you perforce already know that you as a woman should not be lecturing me, a man, nor are you permitted to have a career in education. Moreover, in the church you are forbidden to say a single word. None other than Paul himself said so,

      Below I have copied your instructions from Paul. If you respond after this, I will know you don’t believe Paul after all.

      CORINTHIANS 14:34 Women should be silent in the churches, for they are not permitted to speak, but should be submissive, as the law also says.
      TIMOTHY 2:12 “But I suffer not a woman to teach, nor to usurp authority over the man, but to be in silence”

      And by the way, you STILL have not answered my question as to why God decided not to tell every homosexual on earth to be celibate, thereby wantoning subjecting them to eternity in his lake of burning sulphur. This has sent billions of homosexual straight to hell without any waring whatsoever. How can you worship such a cruel god?

    • commented 2015-05-03 20:32:41 -0400
      Gods words, Leviticus 20:13 “King James Bible
      If a man also lie with mankind, as he lieth with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination: they shall surely be put to death; their blood shall be upon them.
      Paul and Peters first Meeting.. ”http://moments.nbseminary.com/archives/the-purpose-of-pauls-first-meeting-with-peter/">http://moments.nbseminary.com/archives/the-purpose-of-pauls-first-meeting-with-peter/

    • commented 2015-05-03 20:23:39 -0400
      First of all yes, I believe Paul. On his conversion Jesus showed him everything, then Paul went to Peter and spent 14 days in a room going over all Jesus has taught him. Paul confirmed by Peters Testimony. I am not a Priest I am a Disciple. Have you even read the Bible?? About the 35,000 Churches? Exactly the Lord said one Church. On this rock I will build my church. In the Bible it talks about Schisms. All those people that started those Churches were catholic. Calvin ( excommunicate Priest) Luther excommunicated Monk. God and Jesus both did tell the world through his Prophets and Apostles.

    • commented 2015-05-03 14:24:23 -0400

      If it were self explanatory, then there would be only church, not over 45,000 conflicting Christian denominations. Now back to my question about what Jesus said about gay people and our relationships. Your response is apparently that he said nothing, and therefore Paul (who never met Jesus) is the one to listen to.

      Address the following three points:
      1. For the sake of argument, let’s cut to the chase here. Why did not God just say “I made gay people with the same capacity to love another person as straight people, but I require them NOT to follow their homosexual nature. If they DO I will burn them forever in a lake of fire.”

      2. Since you regard Paul as the mouthpiece of Jesus, why are you trying to teach me, a man, when Paul commanded you to stay silent? Are you SILENT in church too?

      3. Why did God not tell the whole world about this? There are hundreds of millions of homosexuals who will unwittingly go to your god’s eternal lake of fire, because no-one told them about this.

    • commented 2015-05-03 13:36:15 -0400
      Derek, I think it’s self explanatory otherwise God would of stopped with man.

    • commented 2015-05-03 13:34:40 -0400
      Derek, Homosexuals are not the only sin of the world. May will burn in hell if they do not repent and change their ways. Everyday people sin, it is not prejudice. I am a sinner. I do go to Church every week, sometimes more and I frequent the confessional every two weeks.

    • commented 2015-05-03 13:31:52 -0400
      Oh you think Saint Paul isn’t the word from Jesus? Sorry Derek, the day I was Baptized I became a Disciple. My job is to go into the world and spread his word. That’s right, I am a women and not a Priest. In the OT God says many times why he created women for Man, to procreate.

    • commented 2015-05-03 12:55:32 -0400

      That is not the words of Jesus. And you didn’t answer my second question.

    • commented 2015-05-03 12:54:23 -0400
      Romans 1:27
      And, in like manner, the men also, leaving the natural use of the women, have burned in their lusts one towards another, men with men working that which is filthy, and receiving in themselves the recompense which was due to their error.

    • commented 2015-05-03 12:52:25 -0400

      Your link doesn’t open, but just the direct quotes from Jesus own words on LGBT people and our relationships would suffice. Also why your God decided not to tell everyone on Earth about this since he is going to make a homosexual burn for all eternity for loving his partner..

      If you want to quote Paul, you should be aware that he clearly states woman should not teach man and should be silent in church. So, being a woman yourself, and what with me being a man, you may want to take that on board.

    • commented 2015-05-03 12:43:34 -0400
      Early Church Fathers have many writings on all the issues even Abortion. “It is well that they should be cut off from the lusts of the world, since ‘every lust wars against the spirit’ and ‘neither fornicators, nor sodomites will inherit the kingdom of God.’” St. Clement of Rome, “First Epistle to the Corinthians,” c. 96 A.D.
      “Some polluted themselves by lying with males. The Greeks, O King, follow debased practices in intercourse with males, or with mothers, sisters, and daughters. Yet, they, in turn impute their monstrous impurity to the Christians.” St. Aristides, “Apology,” c. 125 A.D.

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