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Presidential Debate: Romney Lied 27 Times

by David Badash on October 4, 2012

in News,Politics

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Mitt Romney “won” the presidential debate last night — no doubt, by most accounts, but most also agree he did so by lying. A lot.

The folks over at Think Progress whipped out their calculators and tallied the lies — “myths,” they politely called them. We’re not quite so polite here, because a lie is a lie and when the future of the country is at stake, you really shouldn’t lie.

“Romney only accomplished this goal by repeatedly misleading viewers. He spoke for 38 minutes of the 90 minute debate and told at least 27 myths,” Igor Volsky writes at Think Progress.

Here are a few one the lies, or, um, “myths” Volsky points out. For more, read my own “Presidential Debate: Top 7 Romney Comments You’d Swear He Could Never Have Said –But Did.”

And for more, the L.A. Times and Talking Points Memo agree.

You gott ask yourself, if Romney is willing to lie every step of the way, how could you believe anything he said were he to actually be president?

Via Volsky:

1) “[G]et us energy independent, North American energy independent. That creates about 4 million jobs”. Romney’s plan for “energy independence” actually relies heavily on a study that assumes the U.S. continues with fuel efficiency standards set by the Obama administration. For instance, he uses Citigroup research based off the assumption that “‘the United States will continue with strict fuel economy standards that will lower its oil demand.” Since he promises to undo the Obama administration’s new fuel efficiency standards, he would cut oil consumption savings of 2 million barrels per day by 2025.

4) “My — my number-one principal is, there will be no tax cut that adds to the deficit. I want to underline that: no tax cut that adds to the deficit.” As the Tax Policy Center concluded, Romney’s plan can’t both exempt middle class families from tax cuts and remain revenue neutral. “He’s promised all these things and he can’t do them all. In order for him to cover the cost of his tax cut without adding to the deficit, he’d have to find a way to raise taxes on middle income people or people making less than $200,000 a year,” the Center found.

7) “And the reason is because small business pays that individual rate; 54 percent of America’s workers work in businesses that are taxed not at the corporate tax rate, but at the individual tax rate….97 percent of the businesses are not — not taxed at the 35 percent tax rate, they’re taxed at a lower rate. But those businesses that are in the last 3 percent of businesses happen to employ half — half of all the people who work in small business.” Far less than half of the people affected by the expiration of the upper income tax cuts get any of their income at all from a small businesses. And those people could very well be receiving speaking fees or book royalties, which qualify as “small business income” but don’t have a direct impact on job creation. It’s actually hard to find a small business who think that they will be hurt if the marginal tax rate on income earned above $250,000 per year is increased.

8) “Mr. President, all of the increase in natural gas and oil has happened on private land, not on government land. On government land, your administration has cut the number of permits and licenses in half.” Oil production from federal lands is higher, not lower: Production from federal lands is up slightly in 2011 when compared to 2007. And the oil and gas industry is sitting on7,000 approved permits to drill, that it hasn’t begun exploring or developing.

9) “The president’s put it in place as much public debt — almost as much debt held by the public as all prior presidents combined.” This is not even close to being true. When Obama took office, the national debt stood at $10.626 trillion. Now the national debt is over $16 trillion. That $5.374 trillion increase is nowhere near as much debt as all the other presidents combined.

10) “That’s why the National Federation of Independent Businesses said your plan will kill 700,000 jobs. I don’t want to kill jobs in this environment.” That study, produced by a right-wing advocacy organizationdoesn’t analyze what Obama has actually proposed.

12) “I would like to take the Medicaid dollars that go to states and say to a state, you’re going to get what you got last year, plus inflation, plus 1 percent, and then you’re going to manage your care for your poor in the way you think best.” Sending federal Medicaid funding to the states in the form of a block grant woud significantly reduce federal spending for Medicaid because the grant would not keep up with projected health care costs. A CBO estimate of a very similar proposal from Paul Ryan found that federal spending would be “35 percent lower in 2022 and 49 percent lower in 2030 than current projected federal spending” and as a result “states would face significant challenges in achieving sufficient cost savings through efficiencies to mitigate the loss of federal funding.” “To maintain current service levels in the Medicaid program, states would probably need to consider additional changes, such as reducing their spending on other programs or raising additional revenues,” the CBO found.

14) “What I support is no change for current retirees and near-retirees to Medicare.” Here is how Romney’s Medicare plan will affect current seniors: 1) by repealing Obamacare, the 16 million seniors receiving preventive benefits without deductibles or co-pays and are saving $3.9 billion on prescription drugs will see a cost increase, 2) “premium support” will increase premiums for existing beneficiaries as private insurers lure healthier seniors out of the traditional Medicare program, 3) Romney/Ryan would also lower Medicaid spending significantly beginning next year, shifting federal spending to states and beneficiaries, and increasing costs for the 9 million Medicare recipients who are dependent on Medicaid.

19) “And, unfortunately, when — when — when you look at Obamacare, the Congressional Budget Office has said it will cost $2,500 a year more than traditional insurance. So it’s adding to cost.” Obamacare will actually provide millions of families with tax credits to make health care more affordable.

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Dave_Koch October 4, 2012 at 10:06 am

When a debate moderator allows someone to consistently lie during a debate and be blatantly misleading, you are either completely oblivious to facts, or you are complicit. It appeared to me that Jim Lehrer was bought and paid for by Romney, but either way, Lehrer's credibility as a journalist crashed and burned last night.

Ddayiv October 4, 2012 at 2:16 pm

<div class="idc-message" id="idc-comment-msg-div-455430880"><a class="idc-close" title="Click to Close Message" href="javascript: IDC.ui.close_message(455430880)"><span>Close Message</span> Comment posted. <p class="idc-nomargin"><a class="idc-share-facebook" target="_new" href="http://www.facebook.com/sharer.php?u=http%3A%2F%2Fthenewcivilrightsmovement.com%2Fpresidential-debate-romney-lied-27-times%2Fpolitics%2F2012%2F10%2F04%2F50299%23idc-container#IDComment455430880&t=I%20just%20commented%20on%20Presidential%20Debate%3A%20Romney%20Lied%2027%20Times%20%7C%20The%20New%20Civil%20Rights%20Movement&quot; style="text-decoration: none;"><span class="idc-share-inner"><span>Share on Facebook</span></span> or <a href="javascript: IDC.ui.close_message(455430880)">Close MessageAs a professional folklorist, I would like to thank you for pointing out the mis-use of "myth," especially when " lie" is more appropriate and correct.

BruceMajors4DC October 7, 2012 at 11:13 am

&lt;div class="idc-message" id="idc-comment-msg-div-457563832"&gt;&lt;a class="idc-close" title="Click to Close Message" href="javascript: IDC.ui.close_message(457563832)"&gt;&lt;span&gt;Close Message&lt;/span&gt; Comment posted. &lt;p class="idc-nomargin"&gt;&lt;a class="idc-share-facebook" target="_new" href="http://www.facebook.com/sharer.php?u =http://thenewcivilrightsmovement.com/presidential-debate-romney-lied-27-times/politics/2012/10/04/50299#IDComment457563832&t=I just commented on Presidential Debate: Romney Lied 27 Times | The New Civil Rights Movement" style="text-decoration: none;"&gt;&lt;span class="idc-share-inner"&gt;&lt;span&gt;Share on Facebook&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt; or &lt;a href="javascript: IDC.ui.close_message(457563832)"&gt;Close MessageYou Democrats are liars and killers and have been for years. You let a gay Ambassador and others be killed in Libya and are still lying to cover up your incompetence. You round up poor black kids and sell them to educrat cartels to get donations for your candidates. You incarcerate gay kids in warehouses where they are bullied and deny them school choice so they can leave and go elsewhere. You simply want to keep your government jobs leaching off the taxpayer and will do anything to keep your position as parasites and protectors for the tax predator ruling class you serve. Your pompous idiot Lord Zero lost the debate because your are idiots and without the full protection of the journolisp spin hive you are exposed as racist vicous thieving criminals.

helpotherssucceed October 8, 2012 at 4:01 pm

Most communication is based on body language and tone. People's criticism about Obama is that he was 'asleep' , not what he actually said. Obama need only bring more energy and he will win the debate http://www.politicaltalkblog.com/

brotherprofessor October 8, 2012 at 6:38 pm

Years ago there was a television show called “To Tell The Truth”. Allen Luden, led a panel of celebrity sleuths in a 10 minute interrogation of three people, one the real celebrity and two of them imposters, actors pretending to be a famous person.

Thye should bring back that show. George Romney could paly the role of both imposters. He is a gifted actor who can be whoever he needs to be to accomplish a mission. In the 1990’s he was “The Man From Bain”. A friendly face in the beginning assuring down companies he would give them the money they needed to survive, then he would lower the boom, break up the company, lay off the workers, and make millions. Negative job creation.

Later, on the campaign trail he was the “Romney the elitist snob “–Whoppi Goldberg said she would consider voting for him, He replied. ”what did I do wrong to attract the likes of her?” Later when he expressed the contempt for the 47% he continued his snobbery. But when it came time to debate a new persona appeared. “ Romney the Liberal Champion of the Middle Class. “ Dun-to dun. This Romney cared passionately about the little guy, did not want to help the rich, “How dare you suggest that?” And wanted to defend Medicare against Obama. During the campaign Romney was like a gangster with a gun leveled at the middle class ready to decimate them, Obama was like a sentinel calling out the police. When the police come the gangster says, “Get him, officer he Obama is trying to take money from people I care about.”

He switched identities, without a phone booth. At the end of the To Tell The Truth show Allen Luden might say, “Now will the real Mitt Romney please stand up.” (Drum roll).

Which one would stand up. The Man from Bain? The right wing elitist snob from the campaign trail, or the Liberal Crusader – he should have worn a cape and mask. I don’t know which one would stand up. I don’t think Romney knows. He ‘s just an actor. God help us if we cannot see who he truly is.

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