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Head Of Southern Baptists Sees Gay Marriage Link To North Korea War Threat Against US

by David Badash on March 30, 2013

in News,Politics,Religion

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Fred Luter, president of the Southern Baptist Convention, says it’s no coincidence that North Korea leader Kim Jong-un‘s threat this week to attack America’s mainland comes when America is debating same-sex marriage and allowing gay people into the Boy Scouts.

READ: Southern Baptists, Righting Own Racist History, Denounce Civil Rights For Gays

“I would not be surprised that at the time when we are debating same-sex marriage, at a time when we are debating whether or not we should have gays leading the Boy Scout movement, I don’t think it’s just a coincidence that we have a mad man in Asia who is saying some of the things that he’s saying,” Luter told radio host and radical religious right “ministry” leader Rick Wiles.

North Korea, among other threats over the past two days, said:

“We will first target and dissolve mainland United States, Hawaii and Guam, and United States military based in South Korea.”

Luter, who is 56, was responding to Wiles’ comments:

“You know at precisely the same time the Supreme Court is hearing these arguments on same-sex marriage in Asia a crazy man in possession of nuclear weapons, Kim Jong-un, is openly saying: I have ordered our military to position our rockets on US targets in Hawaii, Japan, Guam and the mainland of the United States. He has gone into a full state of war this week. I don’t know, Pastor Luter, I don’t know if anybody is — I know they’re not — they’re just not putting this together. You got this happening over here and you got this happening over here: could the two be connected? Could our slide into immorality be what is unleashing this mad man over here in Asia to punish us?”

The correct and simpler answer would have been, “no.”

Luter, (image, right) is the newly-elected head of the Southern Baptist Convention, which is actually the second-largest Christian denomination in the U.S., boasting 16 million people and 45,000 churches across the U.S. He is also head of the Franklin Avenue Baptist Church in New Orleans.

Right Wing Watch posted the above transcript, and the audio, below.


Last year, immediately after Luter’s election as the first African-American head of the Southern Baptist Convention, the SBC passed a resolution denouncing civil rights for LGBT people.


Editor’s note: This post has been updated for clarity.



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david0296 March 30, 2013 at 8:27 pm

If that idiocy doesn't get Southern Baptists to leave the church in droves, I don't know what will.

teeveedub March 30, 2013 at 9:10 pm

Perhaps years from now, someone will discover some chemical in the water in the South that scrambles these folks' thinking in this way. Voodoo makes more sense than this.

James_M_Martin March 30, 2013 at 10:02 pm

Someone once called patriotism the last refuge of scoundrels. Today, it is religion. One hopes the First Amendment will prevail over this nonsense. They tried to convince us that Rome fell because of its decadence when Gibbon, among others, showed that Rome fell when paganism was replaced with monotheism. Of course the Baptists are upright people. The "hard shells" don't even drink alcoholic spirits. Then, again, if you show me four Baptists, I will show you a fifth.

weshlovrcm March 30, 2013 at 10:03 pm

The Southern Baptists continue to slide into the sinful abyss of homophobia. Could it be that God is displeased with their inability to discern right from wrong and that could be the impetus for Kim Jong Un's threats? Jesus never condoned homophobia; why do they?

TurboKitty March 30, 2013 at 10:43 pm

Waiting for the loud pop that signifies the GOP/Evangelicals have finally pulled their collective heads out of their butts …

rewinn March 30, 2013 at 10:47 pm

They "worship" Jesus because it's easier than being like Him.

StevenMR March 30, 2013 at 10:52 pm

I though this was the reason "WHAT DO YOU MEAN THAT WASN'T OBAMA?!"

dolfinmb March 31, 2013 at 2:21 am

Like I have said before, Christian whacko nut jobs can convince themselves of any kind of nonsense that pops into their twisted, wicked minds.

sdfrenchie March 31, 2013 at 3:26 am

Pastor Luter, what is the value of that suit and tie you're wearing? How many billions of dollars are the churches and their properties worth? How many homeless, starving and dying people in the United States would Jesus have helped if He was leading your church instead of you?

lepidopteryx March 31, 2013 at 12:35 pm

I wasn't aware that North Korea cared who got married in America.

barbonine March 31, 2013 at 6:14 pm


So a godless Korean is selected as god's instrument to punish America because gay marriage.
Got it. Sort of.

Buffy April 1, 2013 at 12:41 am

Then they wonder why some people think they're stupid and bigoted.

JayJonson April 1, 2013 at 10:07 am

So sad to see Leah Chase, New Orleans icon and owner of the legendary restaurant Dooky Chase's, sitting between Bush and the religious nut in the photo. She is a gracious woman who deserves better company.

LooeyNoorey May 25, 2013 at 7:44 pm

BSA Prez's Faith Promotes Porn !

by Aaronita Smith

Yes, the religion of BSA Pres. Wayne Perry (who's been behind gay Boy Scouts) actually promotes illustrated MALE porn!
Scholars, including Mormon ones, know of a hard-core porn sketch in the Mormon-approved "Book of Abraham."
This Book is part of the "Pearl of Great Price" which, along with the "Book of Mormon," is LDS-authorized scripture.
Figure 7 in Facsimile 2 in "Abraham" shows two beings facing each other. Joseph Smith described them as the "Holy Ghost" and "God" (the Father), the latter showing an erect male sex organ.
Mormons were offended when Smith's newspaper published this sketch in 1842, so the phallic part was whited out for a century until the "restored" LDS church restored the X-rated drawing in 1981!
LDS scholars have hushed up the fact that the "Book of Abraham" is not about the biblical Abraham but actually portrays ancient Egyptian documents showing occult obscene sketches.
Those scholars also know that Smith fraudulently altered them so that he could (blasphemously) portray the Christian trinity as sex fiends in order to promote polygamy among his followers!
For more info see "Book of Abraham" (Wikipedia). And check out the Tanners' "Mormonism – Shadow or Reality?" which reproduces the original Egyptian sketches Smith plagiarized and exploited. Also Yahoo or Google "Facts From Mormons (By a Utah Resident)," "God to Same-Sexers: Hurry Up," "The Background Obama Can't Cover Up," and "USA – from Puritans to Impure-itans."

/ Guess what's above? It's something I smacked into while webbing away. /

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