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  • Clinton Just Said Nancy Reagan Helped Start 'A National Conversation' About AIDS, Which Is Insane

    Democratic Candidate Accused of Re-Writing History

    Hillary Clinton Friday afternoon credited Nancy Reagan with helping to start a national conversation about HIV/AIDS. 

    "It may be difficult for your viewers to remember how difficult it was for people to talk about HIV/AIDS in the 1980s," Clinton told MSNBC while attending the former First Lady's funeral at the Ronald Reagan Presidential Library in Simi Valley, California.

    "And because of President and Mrs. Reagan – in particular Mrs. Reagan – we started a national converation, when before, nobody would talk about it, nobody wanted to do anything about it. That too is something that I really appreciate, with her very effective low-key advocacy. But it penetrated the public conscience, and people began to say, 'Hey, we have to do something about this too.'"

    Late President Reagan and the late First Lady are widely remembered as having ignored the HIV/AIDS crisis, allowing what some say are countless more deaths as a result of their refusal to act. Many believe had the disease been prevalent among non-minority citizens it would have received far greater attention and funding. During last year's Ebola fear, the federal and state governments mobilized even before there was a single case in the U.S., leaving many to ask why that didn't happen under Reagan's watch, for people with HIV/AIDS.

    Many took to social media immediately to express outrage and refute the claim.

    Attorney and journalist Glenn Greenwald:

    Buzzfeed Legal Editor Chris Geidner, who points to his story about the Reagan White House ignoring their friend Rock Hudson's pleas for help, weeks before his death:

    Human Rights Campaign president and Clinton supporter Chad Griffin:

    MSNBC's Rachel Maddow, who kept her response short:

    Others, too:

    The New Civil Rights Movement has reached out to the Clinton campaign for comment but has yet to receive a response. 

     

     

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    • commented 2016-03-11 18:20:56 -0500
      His estate would be Rock Hudson.

    • commented 2016-03-11 18:14:34 -0500
      @lee, thank you for writing all of that. Everything you stated was the absolute truth. I was there, pushing 20 yo, I remember them doing nothing, even after all the deaths from AIDS. I even remember when Linda Evans was considering suing his estate after his death due to an on air kiss they did in a scene on Dynasty. As OUR hearts were opening up because we were losing our friends, the general public decided that it was a gay disease and felt that it didn’t matter, ‘let nature takes it course and kill them all off’ kind of mentality. That is until straight people started getting AIDS, through transfusions, sharing needles, and unprotected sex. I remember that’s when they finally decided that it was an epidemic and something needed to be done. Their inaction help cause all that died from AIDS, and AIDS related deaths, and I hold Reagan personally responsible. I actually lost every gay friend I had back then, they’re all gone. There was a time I was going to funerals every two weeks for a couple of months. I’m very lucky I’ve never contracted HIV. I have way too many issues to have to deal with that too.

    • commented 2016-03-11 18:14:33 -0500
      @lee, thank you for writing all of that. Everything you stated was the absolute truth. I was there, pushing 20 yo, I remember them doing nothing, even after all the deaths from AIDS. I even remember when Linda Evans was considering suing his estate after his death due to an on air kiss they did in a scene on Dynasty. As OUR hearts were opening up because we were losing our friends, the general public decided that it was a gay disease and felt that it didn’t matter, ‘let nature takes it course and kill them all off’ kind of mentality. That is until straight people started getting AIDS, through transfusions, sharing needles, and unprotected sex. I remember that’s when they finally decided that it was an epidemic and something needed to be done. Their inaction help cause all that died from AIDS, and AIDS related deaths, and I hold Reagan personally responsible. I actually lost every gay friend I had back then, they’re all gone. There was a time I was going to funerals every two weeks for a couple of months. I’m very lucky I’ve never contracted HIV. I have way too many issues to have to deal with that too.

    • commented 2016-03-11 18:14:32 -0500
      @lee, thank you for writing all of that. Everything you stated was the absolute truth. I was there, pushing 20 yo, I remember them doing nothing, even after all the deaths from AIDS. I even remember when Linda Evans was considering suing his estate after his death due to an on air kiss they did in a scene on Dynasty. As OUR hearts were opening up because we were losing our friends, the general public decided that it was a gay disease and felt that it didn’t matter, ‘let nature takes it course and kill them all off’ kind of mentality. That is until straight people started getting AIDS, through transfusions, sharing needles, and unprotected sex. I remember that’s when they finally decided that it was an epidemic and something needed to be done. Their inaction help cause all that died from AIDS, and AIDS related deaths, and I hold Reagan personally responsible. I actually lost every gay friend I had back then, they’re all gone. There was a time I was going to funerals every two weeks for a couple of months. I’m very lucky I’ve never contracted HIV. I have way too many issues to have to deal with that too.

    • commented 2016-03-11 17:01:25 -0500
      NOT YET… It is too much of a shock! But we will. I do expect her to say more. She didn’t misspeak she
      MIS KNEW! twitter.com/BVGamble/statu…
      RT @bvgamble
      As someone who has been living with AIDS for 17yr if I can accept Hillary’s apology and move on, then the rest of y’all should too.

    • commented 2016-03-11 16:42:27 -0500
      “It may be difficult for your viewers to remember how difficult it was for people to talk about HIV/AIDS in the 1980s,” Clinton told MSNBC while attending the former First Lady’s funeral at the Ronald Reagan Presidential Library in Simi Valley, California.

      “And because of President and Mrs. Reagan – in particular Mrs. Reagan – we started a national converation, when before, nobody would talk about it, nobody wanted to do anything about it. That too is something that I really appreciate, with her very effective low-key advocacy. But it penetrated the public conscience, and people began to say, ‘Hey, we have to do something about this too.’”

      I revel in Hillary’s confident assurance to the MSNBC reporter of how historically “true” the Reagans’ record was on AIDS activism. Any wonder why it’s difficult to gauge just what exactly is true that Hillary says..? She says so many things with confidence and assuredness… And then says just the opposite with as much confidence and assuredness… One can’t be too certain regarding believing whatever it is Hillary confidently believes. I wish it weren’t so, but she paints herself into corners all the time.

    • commented 2016-03-11 16:36:53 -0500
      Maybe Hillary doesn’t really want to be President after all.

    • commented 2016-03-11 16:12:28 -0500
      THANKS David for posting… Hope you dont mind this longish comment. It too refers to Chris’s wonderful piece. but I add my own comments …

      NO NO NO @hillaryclinton You are WRONG#NancyReagan and President Reagan KILLED #ROCKHUDSON and Thousands of other!AIDS sufferers BY NOT HAVING A CONVERSATION about it, by passing the moral judgement of rhe Catholic Church (via Kbights of Columbus..Anderson) that it was Gods will.

      SEE Chris Geidner fine historical piece in @buzzfeed … It makes many behind the scenes revelations about the Reagan Whitehouse #WarofSilence against #HIV #AIDS
      http://tinyurl.com/jgrojaq

      ME: This is all particularly upsetting to me personally because I had, as a 3rd year Medical Student just admitted the first person with AIDS to a Peoria hospital in the fall of 1984… We were valiantly trying to help all these wonderful men (and children, and women, eg hemophiliacs got it from transfusions as did corornary surgery patients and their spouses etc etc etc) fight to live with this disease until we had a treatment or cure.
      …and Ronald Regan’s WHITEHOUSE fought us every step of the way.

      The White House did not decide that AIDS would be an issue to “get into” until nearly TWO YEARS after Hudson’s death eg in early1987. They were finally forced to say something only because SURGEON GENERAL C.EVERETT KOOP put out his report without telling the White House first - (Probably being afraid it would be suppressed.) MEANWHILE, Reagan kept cutting funding for AIDS research.
      (SEE Surgeon General’s Report on Acquired Immune Deficiency Syndrome )

      The actor and friend of the Reagans — struggling to receive treatment in a foreign country — had been regarded, at least by the White House, just the same as everyone else with AIDS at the time.
      When Hudson’s illness was revealed, Newsweek and the San Francisco Chronicle both published stories on people the magazine dubbed …
      “AIDS Exiles in Paris.” The “expatriates,” as Newsweek called them, were, like Hudson, seeking HPA-23 treatment COMPLETELY UNAVAILABLE in the United States.
      “Understandably, many Americans have expressed displeasure over the need for AIDS victims to go abroad to get treatment,” the magazine stated. “ONLY Last week, however, the U.S. Food and Drug Administration confirmed that it would put HPA-23 on the ‘fast track’ for approval, probably sometime next month.
      Hudson — a Hollywood hunk who had been America’s leading man for decades — put a new face on AIDS that forced the country, and the media, to rethink the discussion of the disease.

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