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Archbishop On Gay Marriage: ‘Human Society Would Be Harmed Beyond Repair’

by David Badash on September 21, 2012

in Bigotry Watch,Marriage,News,Politics,Religion

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J. Peter Sartain says in this video that “human society would be harmed beyond repair,” should Washington state’s marriage equality law not be voted down in November, and suggests that marriage equality will have consequences “until the end of time.” The Roman Catholic Archbishop of Seattle adds he wants to make clear that the Church and its position on Referendum 74 (R-74) are “not against anything,” merely for enshrining marriage into law as only one-man, one-woman — which is by definition, discrimination.

WATCH: Gay Marriage Ban ‘Not Intended To Be Hurtful’ Says Archbishop Leading Charge

Calling marriage “a gift” from God that is the “foundation of all human society, and must be protected, nurtured, and held as sacred by us all.” Which, is exactly what legalizing same-sex couples to enter the institution of civil marriage would accomplish. Given the fact that divorce rates and child homelessness are lower in areas where marriage equality is legal, one would think that the Church might embrace expanding the institution.

“Just as God is the creator of man and woman, so is he the author of marriage,” Sartain says. God, Sartain forgets, also — by his logic — created homosexuals, and, it would follow, therefore is the author of same-sex marriage.

To suddenly change the God-given and time honored understanding of marriage would be a very harmful thing for our state and for the world. Put simply, it is not in the compelling interest of the state to change the definition of marriage. There are many ramifications for such a redefinition. Suffice it to say, should marriage be redefined in our state the very foundational nature of marriage for the good and strength of human society would be harmed beyond repair.”

Claiming “it is not in the compelling interest of the state to change the definition of marriage,” is a lie. Period. Anyone who is in a same-sex relationship and raising children knows this is a lie. Marriage is also about protecting children — which Sartain acknowledges, stating, it is “for the birth and rearing of children,” something same-sex couples do every day.

A few points to ponder: Archbishop Sartin and his Church benefit from generous tax-exempt policies of the United States government. They literally pay practically no taxes whatsoever, so, in essence, you are helping to fund this message through the taxes you pay to make up for those the Archdioceses do not. How much? $71 billion annually.

Second, Sartain ignores the fact that we live in a secular world, and no one is forcing the church to change its definition of marriage or recognize — much less, sanctify — the marriage of anyone they choose not to.

Lastly, Zack Ford at Think Progress notes:

Suffice it to say, claiming that the Church isn’t anti-gay, just pro-straight, is no more convincing than white supremacists claiming they aren’t anti-black, just pro-white.

Via On Top

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barbonine September 21, 2012 at 1:11 pm

You know what also harms society? Freakish frock-wearing, celibate men!

Alex_Parrish September 21, 2012 at 1:45 pm

Hey — you in the dress — If your so freakin' devoted to marriage, then why aren't you married? And the line that you're not against something, you're just for something else — which is discrimination, is priceless. Dan Savage addresses it in another video on this site. If somebody punches you in the nose because they hate you or punches you in the nose because the want to impress their friends (or their invisible friend) it makes no difference; you've still got a god-damned broken nose.

david0296 September 21, 2012 at 5:39 pm

Just out of curiosity, exactly how long does it take for "human society to be harmed beyond repair"? Because Massachusetts has had marriage equality for over 8 years, and not a single person living there has been harmed in any way. If I didn't know any better, that would basically mean that the honorable Archbishop is a flat-out liar.

At one point he says, "…should marriage be redefined in our state the very foundational nature of marriage for the good and strength of human society would be harmed beyond repair." Really? So when Newt Gingrich divorced his second wife, and married the woman he had been cheating with for the past 6 years… that was for the good of human society? I'm also wondering how Rush Limbaugh's 4th (childless) marriage is for the good of human society?

Monroe94102 September 21, 2012 at 9:13 pm

Dear professional, Catholic bigot, fuck you, and fuck your attitude. The gays need not ask for your god-damn blessing to marry the person they choose because they're adults. If you don't like this notion, go fuck your self. The SCOTUS is more powerful than you bible thumping, sexist bullshit.

Chris in Lathrop September 21, 2012 at 10:21 pm

Hey, Archbishop Hypocrite: people getting married would harm society beyond repair, but raping kids and/or helping their rapists flee justice doesn't??? Go choke on Leviticus, you jackass!

ACB33 September 22, 2012 at 1:51 am

All people deserve to be spoken to and about respectfully. I am one of the faithful. I am also a U.S. citizen. I am a firm believer in the separation of Church and State. If you want to counsel a GLTB Catholic against marriage in the Church you are well within your role as a Church leader to do so. But, to weigh in on a debate that actually impacts the economic and legal rights of non-Catholics is beyond your authority. How I vote or exercise my legal rights granted me as a citizen of the United States is not yours to influence or dictate. If you, as a citizen want to campaign against marriage equality, replace your robes of Church office with the clothes of a regular citizen. Please, please do not mix the two. I do not deny you your right to think and campaign as a U.S. citizen. I do take exception from you exercising those rights dressed in the robes of Church authority.

Huntercgo September 22, 2012 at 7:18 am

I don't think I've seen the institutional narcissism of the Catholic hierarchy so clearly stated. It occurs to me that part of the turn toward conservatism in the hierarchy is a return to the idea of the "universal Church" — i.e., their Church is the only Church, and their law, the only law. And here I thought the Holy Roman Emperors had settled that question a few hundred years ago.

To anyone with even a passing acquaintance with the history of marriage, Bishop Sartain is just passing gas. Marriage is and always has been a human institution, created to meet human needs. It's a social convention and a life-stage marker — it's one of a group of them, along with birth, adulthood, elderhood, and death. For a johnny-come-lately like the Catholic Church to claim ownership is beyond ridiculous.

And imagine my surprise to discover that Washington State is the determinant for the fate of the universe. Who knew?

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