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Cardinal To Same-Sex Couples: Your Marriages Are ‘Fiction,’ You Should Be Celibate

by David Badash on January 2, 2013

in News,Politics,Religion

Chicago’s Cardinal Francis George has issued a letter stating same-sex marriages are “a legal fiction” and that gay people must live celibate lives or risk God’s love. George, who published the letter New Year’s Day in advance of an upcoming Illinois bill that would make same-sex marriages legal, adds that the Church will refuse to bow to the will of the majority on marriage equality, but promises the Catholic Church is not anti-gay.

READ: Catholic Cardinal: Gay Marriage Not Marriage, Just Friends With Benefits

“Civil laws that establish ‘same-sex marriage’ create a legal fiction,” George writes. “The State has no power to create something that nature itself tells us is impossible,” the Cardinal states, apparently forgetting that corporations are people.

“People live out their sexual identity in different ways, but the Church offers the means to live chastely in all circumstances, as the love of God both obliges and makes possible,” George’s letter states, meaning gay people should live celibate lives or risk going to Hell.

Curiously, Cardinal George’s letter, which was also signed by six Illinois Bishops, adds that if same-sex marriage becomes legal in Illinois, it will be challenging for him and, supposedly, all Catholics, to maintain their respectability. George is worried same-sex marriage equality will make the public label Catholics who don’t support the new law “bigots.”

We will all have to pretend to accept something that is contrary to the common sense of the human race.

Those who continue to distinguish between genuine marital union and same sex arrangements will be regarded in law as discriminatory, the equivalent of bigots. This proposed legislation will have long term consequences because laws teach; they tell us what is socially acceptable and what is not, and most people conform to the dictates of their respective society, at least in the short run.

George, mocking the very concept of civil rights, also pretends that the Bible gives him this authority, and that his bigotry is merely “God’s law,” and the law of nature.

If we ignore in law the natural complementary of man and woman in creation, then the natural family is undermined. Our individual lives become artificial constructs protected by civil “rights” that destroy natural rights. Human dignity and human rights are then reduced to the whims of political majorities. When the ways of nature and nature’s God conflict with civil law, society is in danger. It is to that danger that we direct your attention.

He adds:

Marriage comes to us from nature. The human species comes in two complementary sexes, male and female. Their sexual union is called marital. It not only creates a place of love for two adults but also a home for loving and raising their children. It provides the biological basis for personal identity.

It is physically impossible for two men or two women to consummate a marriage, even when they share a deep friendship or love.

It was just one year ago that then-Archbishop George was the subject of condemnation around the nation for his “warning” that a local Chicago gay pride parade might “morph into something like the Klu Klux Klan, demonstrating in the streets against Catholicism.”

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Str8Grandmother January 2, 2013 at 11:37 am

I hope to hell Illinois passes Civil Marriage for sexual minorities real quick so we don't have to listen to these Illinois Catholic Bigots one day longer. And he is right, they will be shunned for their views. It is one thing to preach to their flock about their religion it is quite another when they inject themselves into our political process.

Alex_Parrish January 2, 2013 at 11:40 am

Good — the bishop is right on cue and on-time. The incalcitrance of the R.C. church is so very predictable. It is this very trait coupled with their delusion of infallibility which makes them more-and-more irrelevant and will eventually lead to their downfall among civilized societies. Certainly, a cult which separates its religious into male and female groups, forbidding normal sexual relations, has no standing to assert superior knowledge in the area of sexual relations. The R.C. church is hurtling itself towards extinction — and it can't come quickly enough for me.

BearFlagCitizen January 2, 2013 at 11:45 am

Dear Cardinal George: Your religion is fiction.

Love, li'l ol' soon to be married, gay me.

Galien55 January 2, 2013 at 2:40 pm

I hear that! :-)

joyandorla January 2, 2013 at 11:47 am

Dear Cardinal and your silly red hat:

Thanks for sharing your up-to-the-minute (if it was 1650) opinions.

We don't care.

Scott_Rose January 2, 2013 at 11:59 am

At the link below is the full text of the "Reichskonkordat," the political treaty between the Vatican and Adolf Hitler. At the time this treaty was signed, the anti-Jewish racial laws were already in force in Nazi Germany:
Here is an example of what is in the treaty:
Article 3
In order to foster good relations between the Holy See and the German Reich, an apostolic nuncio will reside in the capital of the German Reich and an ambassador of the German Reich at the Holy See.

lzambeni January 3, 2013 at 10:42 pm

Scott, Well said! Thanks for reminding us of the "moral high ground" the Roman Catholic Church continues to hold.

BishopAndrew January 2, 2013 at 12:23 pm

No one cares what the "lady in red" thinks or teaches nor should we. After all he represents a foreign government that is an absolute dictatorship in the name of religion and one that went to, and if fact continues to do, extraordinary measures to protect pedophiles who raped the bodies and minds of little children. Such an institution cannot and does not have any credibility in general and none in particular when it comes to marriage!

barbonine January 2, 2013 at 12:27 pm

Hey, man in a red dress, it is funny to watch you importantly issuing letters nobody but your deluded followers give a rat about.

Nobody cares what you have to say, any more than society cared what L. Ron Hubbard had to say fifty years ago.

Your input is unimportant and unsolicited, cardinal. Expect more of the same in the years to come. Who is that noisy little man in the red dress?

DesertSandwitch January 2, 2013 at 1:10 pm

considering that marriage was nothing more than a financial contract that families entered into to shore up holdings, farms, estates and political interests where they sold off children to the highest bidder… I find that the reasoning behind the Catholic Church's stance against marriage/civil unions to be ridiculous. Marriages were never about anything more than financial and political power. The reason that marriage was eventually denied to the clergy was the church didn't want anyone inheriting the estates and money of the priests. As long as there were no legitimate heirs, the Church could collect all the assets belonging to deceased clergy. The positions of clergy were frequently bought and paid for by what the church would eventually inherit. The church continues to believe its own revised history… or at least hopes its members will.

cjonesnj January 2, 2013 at 1:24 pm

So the laws against inter-racial marriage should not have been repealed because that might have made some people feel like bigots?

Truth_Addict January 2, 2013 at 1:26 pm

Isn't it God's law that we stone women that aren't virgins on their wedding day? Doesn't that conflict with the civil law? According to this creep, society is in danger for not stoning these women. I say we do society a favor and stone him instead.

tomchicago01 January 2, 2013 at 1:47 pm

Speaking of "fiction", where in the universe is there evidence that nature tells us that gay love is "impossible"? The medieval party line of this bunch is the fiction that I'm seeing.

Galien55 January 2, 2013 at 2:33 pm

The Cardinal's words are arrogant and irrelevant. Marriage equality in Illinois or in any state or in this country have nothing to do whatsoever with the Catholic Church or any other church. He speaks as if he is the authority on what defines marriage and what is right & wrong. Says who? He is free to believe whatever he wants, and if people choose to believe him they are free to do so. For the rest of us, which is the vast majority of people, his words mean nothing. We'll see how 'fictional' our legal status is after DOMA is overturned and the government says we are just as married as my own parents were, as the cardinal's parents were. The Cardinal needs to go back to his mansion on State Parkway and ponder how he justifies living like a Prince while the number of homeless in Chicago increases every day. Talk about living a fictional life——- the Cardinal and the Catholic Church is a fraud.

Becell17 January 2, 2013 at 2:43 pm

So it's not ok for 2 people who love each other to be legally wed, but it is ok to sweep under the rug about all of your minions who molest little children.

Siddigfan January 2, 2013 at 10:06 pm

Frankly, I could care less about what the Catholic Church teaches about homosexuality! Argue about it all day long for all I care! That's not the point!
The POINT is WHY does it think it has the right to force its beliefs upon everyone else? I know that that is Catholic tradition to do so but this is not the Dark Ages when you can go about burning little Cathar children to death because they don't agree with you. Don't you understand how that kind of power leads to corruption? The Church murdered hundreds of thousands of people just because they had the temerity to disagree with the Holy Catholic Church and its Almighty Hierarchy!

Not everyone is Catholic, or even Christian! Why can't you get it through your head that they don't need or want your interference in their lives? Yes, I am Catholic! But I don't go around trying to force Jews to eat meat or Mormons to stop baptizing proxies for the dead, or Muslims from praying to Mecca. I don't even care if they have seven wives as long as the wives have no complaint.

The whole point of the discussion of Civil Marriage rights for LGBT persons is NOT whether the Catholic Church thinks it's wrong! This is America, for God's sake! If we legislated morality based on what the Church wanted, all women would be barefoot and pregnant at home, getting beaten by their husbands because, God forbid they should get a divorce and not be able to support themselves or even be allowed access to their children, all 22 of them! Jews and blacks would not be in any public office or even be allowed to vote! Do you realize how many Catholics were against women's rights or against desegregation and black voting rights?

THAT is why we have separation of Church and State and why we have Courts to protect the rights of the minority from the oppression of the majority. Just because 22,000 people say something is right (or wrong!) doesn't make it so! And it also doesn't give them the right to enforce their religious beliefs upon the rest of the nation!
It is WRONG that voters in any State should even have the power to VOTE upon whether fellow tax-paying American citizens should have the right to marry the person they love. It is a HUMAN Right! And THAT is the point, my friend!

usorthem3 January 3, 2013 at 2:51 am

This at the same time the Pope gives blessings to the PM from Uganda who wants all gay people dead just like the Catholic church advocated Hitler's distruction of millions of human lives that were indeed "natural". Organized religion is the most unnatural thing humans ever invented along with that hate filled god they pray to for death.

RussWindle January 3, 2013 at 7:25 am

And dear Cardinal your position is fictional, you and your church are losing control of the people you claim to serve with statements such as this. One more thing dear cardinal, GO TO HELL you pompous self-pius bastard.

Diogenes_Arktos January 4, 2013 at 9:59 pm

The Cardinal prefers to believe what the Vatican tells him: the American hierarchy has relevance to the majority of the American RC. Of course, the Vatican also ignores the existence of the massive group of "recovering Catholics", who have totally rejected the hierarchy.

Along with the election epistles threatening eternal damnation for voting for Obama, I happen (as a Christian) to find that his arrogance of declaring that anyone's salvation is in peril disgusting.

cajun_snake January 3, 2013 at 10:17 am

“People live out their sexual identity in different ways, but the Church offers the means to live chastely in all circumstances, as the love of God both obliges and makes possible,”

Oh, you mean the way Priest do?

Diogenes_Arktos January 4, 2013 at 10:03 pm

He has got to be kidding. There are too many priests who obviously do not have the charism of celebacy, yet he believes that lay LGBT folk all have this charism?! Given what the church offers the clergy and they fail, how can he even hope for any success with LGBT folk?

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